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Value of Elland Road increased by £40 million?

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Logi_Lufc, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. Logi_Lufc

    Logi_Lufc Well-Known Member

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    According to an LUFC twitter page called @Lufcupdate ' Lufc accounts: Club has option to buy back Elland Road for £14.85m. Accounts say East Stand work has increased value of ER+land to £54.72m'

    Discuss...

    Edit: Just realised the title of this thread isnt really correct but you get the jist
     
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  2. Cozer

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    Who do you think own's ER?
     
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  3. The-Don

    The-Don Well-Known Member

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    I think Mrs Bates and Caddicks own Elland Road!
     
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  4. Logi_Lufc

    Logi_Lufc Well-Known Member

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    Ive not a clue. Could be literally anyone hiding behind offshore accounts and that. Heard the caddicks rumour though. sounds plausible
     
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  5. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    So Coco's buried £30m has been found <whistle>

    Bit like the scene from Porridge years ago <laugh>
     
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  6. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    So basically - Ken Bates is using YOUR money to build on and improve HIS ground - the bloke is a thieving bastard!!
     
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  7. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Exactly TC and its his club so he's going nowhere <doh> unless he dies or sells up so he's going nowhere then <laugh>
     
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  8. Logi_Lufc

    Logi_Lufc Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much spot on!. I just cant believe some LUFC fans still defend him
     
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  9. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Glutten for punishment aren't they <doh>
     
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  10. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Long live the king <ok>
     
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  11. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Sssshhhhhhhh don't let the weeds hear that as we love him really <laugh>
     
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  12. JonnyLosAngeles

    JonnyLosAngeles Well-Known Member

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    Clueless, not you, them.
     
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  13. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Exactly Jonny, beats me how some of your boys still back him <doh>
     
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  14. JonnyLosAngeles

    JonnyLosAngeles Well-Known Member

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    Let us know when you figure it out, please!!!!!!! <doh>
     
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  15. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Search me mate <laugh>
     
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  16. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    Hmm, I may be missing something or seem stupid here but whats the actual issue?

    He has spent money on a stadium that he is going to buy back for a set figure that will not change, whether he or someone he knows actually owns it anyway is irrelevant. It wouldn't have been where I woulda spent the club's money but its not completely idiotic if it is at all. As I say maybe I'm missing something here
     
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  17. JonnyLosAngeles

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    Missing something? Stupid?

    Don't be so hard on yourself Josh!

    We have plenty others who will do it for you! :laugh:

    See, it is like this, plain and honest.

    Many people have a hard time distinguishing whether the owner is doing something to benefit Leeds United or to benefit Ken Bates.

    Yes there is a HUGE difference.
     
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  18. Josh-LUFC

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    I understand that it is most likely benfitting Bates more than Leeds United but people where specifically complaining about spending money on a stadium that we didn't own. Thats fair enough however if that figure is set and I don't know when it expires but if it is bought for that figure then I don't see a problem with renovating the stadium, again though at this point in time it wouldn't have been where I would have spent the club's money
     
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  19. 666 & Elmo

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    Josh - cashflow and keeping the club afloat while remaining competitive. That's half the problem.

    Bates is not doing what he said he would do. He said the club would have to finance itself. In a way he has done that. He has managed to get credit to do things based onthe club's own finances.

    But to get that credit he has had to promise the next 2 year's season tickets money, and he has had to sell preferential shares at a 25% markup rate. He had to do this in the summer, while we were building the East Stand, at which point the work suddenly seemed to stop.

    This seems to me like we had a cashflow issue. Then. But if he has spent all the money from that, where is the cashflow coming in for taking the club through the next period? It's like a Ponsi scheme. He is grabbing credit from others to pay back the credit he has taken from other others.

    Bates and Harvey are taking us down a very long and winding vertically down track.

    The only way he can turn it round is to sell up or get promoted or get the fans back in. My guess is he could well be going hell for leather (in his understanding, that may be £5m for players) for promotion this coming year, and if we fail, it will be just as bad as when PR Pete gambled and lost.
     
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