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Valuation of Saints Team

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Saintjoey, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. Saintjoey

    Saintjoey Well-Known Member

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    With our youth and technical quality it got me thinking about how much our players are worth. Any input would be appreciated:

    Boruc - Out of contract so tough to say

    Clyne - 7.5m aparently. Seems fair to me - English, pacey and always improving.
    Yoshdia - 3m - wouldn't say his value has increased/decreased during his time here.
    Fonte - 4m - Hard to judge but a sound technical defender which seems to be the fasion these days.
    Shaw - 20m? - Can't help but feel Bale's success will push his price up. Also he's a proper athlete, English and defensively very able. And only 17! Scary what he could achieve.

    Cork - 8m - Technically sound, good tackler, extremely good engine and an all round good player.
    Schneiderlin - 20m - Would like to think we wouldn't let him go for anything because he's going right to the top. What an allround class player - range of passing, tackling, work ethic and now even goalscoring. And only 23. Wow.
    Lallana - 10m - Skillful and 2 footed and still only 24. Ha scored and created goals at all levels but can be injury prone. As a result hasn't set the EPL alight thus far.
    Ramirez - 15m - Again, not sure his value has dipped or increased since his arrival but a potential bidding war could mean he could be worth much more.

    Rodriguez - 10m - His value must have gone up! What a talent he is. Strong, good finisher, fast and an unbelieavable work ethic.
    Lambert - 7m - Priceleess for Southampton but on paper perhaps not worth too much. The fact that he relies on intelligence and technique over pace means he has a good 3 years at the top level left.

    Puncheon and JWP must also be worth 5m+

    Anyway I'd love to hear your input but the fact that everyones locked into long term contracts is encouraging. Looks like we have a very valuable team to me!
     
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  2. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I have never understood why no one has come in for some of our players, especially Schneiderlin. My guess is that Cortese rebuffs any enquiry so soundly we never get to hear about it. It's only when an agent gets involved (as with Oxo) that it gets seriously reported. All this talk of Clyne and Shaw going is just journalists filling their papers.

    Have no argument with your valuations, except I doubt we'd get 20 mill for Schneiderlin (he's worth more to us than anyone else).
     
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  3. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    P.s. this thread has been done before, but no one else seems to be awake so why not;)
     
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  4. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Morgan's value would undoubtedly increase if he got picked for the senior French team, especially if that happened in the World Cup. I still don't think we'll be selling very many of the players listed though. Until more youngsters start coming through, or we make a couple of marquee signings in the summer, they are all worth far more to us than our Premier League rivals.
     
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  5. Saint Birdsnest

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    The thing is, the value of a player is relative, it differs from club to club based on their needs.

    For example, I can't see at the moment Arsenal offering more than £8M for Schneiderlin. However, for us, I would say he is literally priceless. Even if we got a £40M offer, while it would seem crazy to turn down, who would we get to replace him? Who's better than him, Toure, Wilshere maybe? But would they go to Southampton? Not a chance. We would have no chance of buying a better CDM than Schneiderlin regardless of our money, so for me, he is priceless.

    I reckon the same goes for Rickie, Adam and Shaw.
     
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  6. rabbitspectrum

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    Boruc - 3m if he signs a 2 year contract
    Clyne - 6m
    Yoshdia - 3.5m
    Fonte - 2.5m
    Shaw - 10m
    Cork - 7m
    Schneiderlin - 10m
    Lallana - 7m
    Ramirez - 12m

    Rodriguez - 6.5m
    Lambert - 4m

    I would be pissed off if any of them went for those prices but I think that is what other clubs would be looking at paying for them. Obviously if chelsea really want to get Shaw they would be looking at paying 15m+ but given how young he is, paying more than 10m would be quite a risk especially when he wouldn't walk into their 2nd string side atm.

    10m for schneiderlin would still be good value for the buyer and would probably be what most other clubs would look to sell him for if they had him. He has been superb this season and is an immense player for us but I don't think he will ever make the defensive midfield role in the French national team his own. At 23 and playing his first season in the premier league he should still have plenty of improvement in him so we will have to see. Schneiderlin has been our best player this season imo but I would still say it is more likely that he won't make it as a champions league standard midfielder.

    I don't think any team would buy lallana for much more than 7m but if he starts scoring he'll be worth 14m+.
     
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  7. Saintjoey

    Saintjoey Well-Known Member

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    Valuations change by the day, Fran. By the day. :)
     
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  8. saintgreg10

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    A player's value is determined by how much a club is willing to pay for them. If teams like Man City or PSG come rocking in, you're looking at vastly over-inflated values.
    Liverpool under Daglish is another example - £35 million for Carrol, £20 million for Henderson and £20 million for Downing - nobody could see these fees coming, but Liverpool were happy to pay them at the time.

    Sunderland must have been laughing all the way to the bank when they got £44 million for Henderson and Bent combined!

    I have no doubt that if we do receive an offer for one of our star players, Cortese will know when to say yes and when to say no.
    WOxlade-Chamberlain to Arsenal - We got a great deal out of that one, and still continue to receive money from them based on goals and England appearance fees etc.
     
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    Boruc - N/A
    Clyne - 17.5
    Yoshida - 10
    Fonte - 7.5
    Shaw - 20
    Cork - 15
    Morgan - 20
    Lallana - 15
    Ramirez - 15
    Rodrigeuz - 15
    Lambert - 20

    Valuations are based on what I think we'd be actually willing to sell them for hence inflated prices on some players.
     
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  10. RLSGM

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    The thing about the price of footballers, is that there isnt always a correlation between ability and price! Carroll went for 35m, and Van Persie for 21m...
     
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  11. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    And perceived value is different between club and club. For example, if you already have a Van Persie type and he cost you £21M, you are hardly likely to be looking for the same style of player, hence valuations are different to different clubs.

    Mind you, if you have a Carroll type player and he cost you £35M you feel sick.
     
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    Age and remaining years on contract has a lot to do with it
     
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