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Useless Linesman tonight

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Hank Scorpio, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Hank Scorpio

    Hank Scorpio Well-Known Member

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    Since nobodys made a thread about him, i'm starting one.

    Missed a blatant push on Aluko in the penalty area, when City started to look dangerous, after going 1 down, in the first half.

    Missed their man handball it in the box, shortly after that event.

    When we played it through for what looked like the deciding goal to make it 3-1, he flagged Aluko (i think) offside, when it clearly deflected off the defender in the process.

    Not saying these were the reason Blackpool won, as we shot ourselves in the foot with some sloppy defending and shoddy goal keeping. But he was ****in' useless tonight.
     
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  2. GLP

    GLP Well-Known Member

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    They were as bad at officiating as Amos is at goalkeeping. The player that fouled Aluko in the area for the first penalty should also have had a straight red, I think he was the last man. These aren't even debatable decisions - it was a stonewall penalty.
     
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  3. tigerrev

    tigerrev Well-Known Member

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    So just what is the offside rule? Linesman was flag happy and couldn't wait to wave his arm in the air. Aluko clearly played onside for what would have made it 3-1 and a different result
     
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  4. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Simpson also got flagged offside somehow after being played in by their defenders poor control, I'd have fancied him in that position anytime even today when he had an off day in front of goal. Then they went and scored their first instantly straight from the offside decision. Useless bunch of ****s need to learn the ****ing rules.
     
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  5. Diego Gomezjurado

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    He was a ****ing ****.
     
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  6. johnfirth

    johnfirth Active Member

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    I might be wrong here but if you play the ball forward and your player is in an offside position it does'nt matter if it deflects off one of their players does it?
    Not saying that the linesman was'nt crap cos I was'nt there but I thought you were inelligable to touch the ball in that situation till you had got onside and someone on your team who was onside at the time had got the ball
     
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  7. dem_on

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    The old days of a deflection playing an attacker onside have long gone.The linesmen raise their flags if ,at the moment the ball is played forward a player is standing in an offside position.He may in fact run back onside to actually play the ball but the flag will still go up.
    This change has it's pro's and cons .A ball played direct to an offside player but untouched by him can allow an onside player to run through and collect the ball and score a legitimate goal. Unfortunately often rules are too complex and errors are easily made.
     
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  8. mauled1904

    mauled1904 Well-Known Member

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    Whilst we're talking about the offside law, why wasn't he so kean to raise his flag for their second goal. Phillips was clearly offside when the ball was played which ended in him scoring!
     
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  9. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Agreed on the Push for the pen in the first half and the offside was very tight so i give him the benefit....JUST. The other lino missed Faye pulling at Kev Phillips shirt which was also a penalty. So that evens itself out,, imo.

    But you are correct in saying that Hull City AGAIN LOST THE GAME DUE TO DEFENDING THAT 5 year olds would not do nevermind so called Professionals. SB has evry right to feel let down by it. 6 goals conceeded @ home in 4 days and ALL of them GIFTS. Happy Xmas Peterboro and Blackpool.
     
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  10. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    Nowadays you're right, officials have been gradually making the rule more and more defensive for years to the point that now, if a player isn't flagged offside after several deflections and sometimes a completel change of direction from a keepers save, there is uproar. I seriously doubt this is what the people who wrote the rule decades ago had in mind. The offside rule should just stop goals played forward deliberately to your own player, not passes from defenders.
     
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  11. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Who was the deflected pass on our 'goal' intended for?

    When it's a keeper's save the point is usually that the player has been stood in an offside position and has tried to gain an advantage from it.
     
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  12. westhulltiger

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    Was intended for elmohamady but aluko ran for it when he was in an offside position
     
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  13. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    There's no chance a striker tries deliberately to gain advantage in 2 passes time by standing offside long before he gets it. Who has time to think about that when they're trying to evade a massive centre-half hanging onto them?

    This modern ofside rule, like everything else, just favours the defence and make scoring a goal harder, promoting the 'parking the bus' concept at the same time. It's utterly stupid. The rule was only made to prevent what people used to call 'goal-scrounging' at school (essentially standing next to the goal with no one around and waiting for the ball) there's absolutely no need to stop perfectly good moves on a daft technicality that someone might have been offside two or three passes ago. Equally stupid is when they justify it by saying someone should be offside without even touching the ball just because the 'keeper can see them. How much easier does the keeper need it to be ffs?!

    The first one was intended for Simpson and went through for him, but the ball was altered completely from it's original pass from their player. That was just before their 1st goal.

    The one in the second half went to Aluko but I can't remember who it was for.
     
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  14. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Are you talking about a specific incident here? After a save it's usually come from a longer range shot getting parried and a striker who's made their run too early and got in an offside position as the shot was taken. They've then clearly made an effort to get away from the defender in order to get to the ball before them. If they happen to have ended up in an offside position as the shot is taken they're still trying to gain an advantage from their position and are correctly penalised.
     
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  15. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    If ever a linesman deserved a sharpened coin hurled at the back of his thigh, it was this one.
     
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  16. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Yes he was poor but thats going too far. IMO, the offside rule should be changed so that ""as long as there is not fresh air between the attacker and last man then the attacker is onside"". Fans want to see goals and far too many are ruled out for fine margins. Garcia @ West Ham is a classic example of a goal that should have stood. imo.
     
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  17. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Pea shooter with a tranq dart would be more suited. After being rubbed on a poison dart frog.
     
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  18. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    But why? It isn't unfair in any way, it's just a stupid modern technicality. A rule for the sake of a rules.
     
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  19. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Of course it's fair. If you go running off into a position where you're not allowed to receive the ball yourself the defenders shouldn't have to track you. If one of your team mates has a shot and you look to gain from having been in the offside position then you should be penalised.
     
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