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United we stand, devided we fall

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by DragonPhilljack, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Huw Jenkins is not stupid, and he and the Board will not have made this decision lightly. Sadly the Premier League demands instant success, leaving most teams with little option but to turn to desperate measures to improve their chances of survival. It is the nature of the beast as you all well know, or should know by now, and to keep up in the high risks of the Premier League, you have to take a chance sometimes, and that's what we have done by sacking Laudrup. I hope it pays off, and I'm pretty sure it will, I liked Laudrup a lot, but at the end of the day, as a manager he had some serious flaws, whether you like to admit them or not.

    Clearly some on here are having difficulty swallowing what Dai had said on here for a long time, well that's their problem, but Dai was right (for once) and I had to admit myself some 4 or 5 weeks back that I could indeed see our board of directors acting to secure our main income stream of £90 Million, and not even some one as high profile as Michael Laudrup, could get in the way of that, we have progressed year on year now for over ten years, and this season could well have jeopardised all that had Laudrup stayed. I know all the arguments for and against his sacking, and there are valuable points on both sides, but at the end of the day, we could not continue as we were, and I salute Huw Jenkins and our board for being brave enough to make the very difficult but right decision to safe guard our club, no man not even Laudrup can come before that fact, so we move on hopefully forwards and upwards, as we try to repair the damage done, it is now a responsibility of all Jacks to get behind our Chairman, board and team, as we regroup to come out fighting for our status as a Premiership team, lets unite please!...................<ok>
     
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  2. plasticfan

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    Well said. At the end of the day we all support the Swans not Laudrup. Swans should be our priority. Laudrup has gone, so time to move on. Monk deserves a chance for one game at least. let's see what happens on Saturday.
     
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  3. Yankee_Jack

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    Supporting the manager, any manager, while he is employed at the club .... is supporting the club .... isn't it or do I have something mis-wired. If so why not support Laudrup when he was manager. Why permit players to gripe directly to the Chairman instead of being redirected to communicate and express their concerns through proper channels - this also happened with Sousa and might have happened with Rogers. Why bring in players (Ngog and Emnes) that are hardly going to deliver much in the Prem - for any manager.

    The notion of "Swans should be our priority" is comical when the best word that I can come up with for the way the "club" has dealt with it's manager over the last 12 months is sabotage. I am not commenting is support of Laudrup here, but the club's way of operating. If they can do it to one, they can do it to others, including Monk. Words and actions, especially actions behind the scenes, are not consistent with the traditional meaning of "the best interests of the club" and "supporting the manager".
     
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  4. roofjack_22

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    Somebody should have mentioned that united we stand crap to Jenkins and the board early in the season before they started thrusting knives in Laudrup's back . And dai isn't right about Laudrup , he as wrong as Huw and the board are. That being said , I think Monk should be given a chance without looking for anyone else untill he shows he can't do the job
     
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  5. plasticfan

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    What I meant was that some are still supporting Laudrup after he's left. He's gone and not coming back, so we need to move on. No point dwelling on it. Yes, managers should be supported, but sometimes you have to get rid of them for the good of the club. You can debate whether getting rid of Laudrup was good for the club or not, but the problem is that there are differing opinions and someone has to make the decision. That's the job of Huw and the board, and they made it (rightly or wrongly). So we have to accept it, move on and support the team. They own/run the club, so it's always going to be their decision. Whether you like that or not, that's they way it is. That's life, so no point stressing over things you have no control over. If you do that you'll just have a life full of stress. It's only football.
     
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  6. Yankee_Jack

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    I appreciate the sentiment SB, but the problem is that by the time we know that Monk can't do the job, we will be relearning where the hell Doncaster is and trying to balance payments on a parachute check.

    This is a risk of the highest order since the point spread between us and the drop zone is so slim. We needed to strengthen and cover for injuries and improve quality on the field. The risk is not just in can Monk do the job, but can he command the respect of the locker room. Monk is on a hiding to nothing - sadly. Any result other than relegation at this point is going to be a positive.
     
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  7. Yankee_Jack

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    Very true.

    But, let's see what "only" means after Saturday if we lose. It's could be brutal ... for Monk personally and point wise for the club.
     
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  8. roofjack_22

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    Equally , sometimes the board needs to be shuffled , and this is the time . Most non Swan fans think we (the board ) are out of there minds . We HAVE to do the "united we stand " , opposing fans don't have to , they get to laugh at our championship board .
     
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    So if we now get relegated, would Dai still be right?
    The board have made a decision, whether it was the right one or not is yet to be seen.
    Just because enough people bitched about the most successful manager we have ever had and the board has listened, it does not make them right.
     
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    And most non-Southampton fans thought the Southampton board were out of their minds earlier this season. But now everyone thinks they made a great decision. Do you want our club decisions based on what other fans think? Perhaps Huw should have put up a poll for other fans to vote. Other fans have no idea what's going on at this club. Why would you want to listen to them. If you think the board were wrong, that's fair enough. But I don't think other fans adds anything to your argument.
     
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    I think he would because I think Laudrup would have got us relegated (although we'll never know). Hindsight is wonderful, but decisions need to be made without the benefit of hindsight. You have to do what you think's best under teh current circumstances. It's easy to be wise after the event. Any fool can do that.

    Even if the board is wrong, it is their decision to make. And they have to make it. If they kept Laudrup and we got relegated then they would have had some serious questions asked. So what can they do? They had to make a decision one way or another and they did what they thought was best. They can't do much more than that. No-one's perfect and it's a difficult situation.
     
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  12. DragonPhilljack

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    Monk is just a stop gap, he is neither qualified or experienced, but I'm sure he'll try his hardest to unite the dressing room, and move us forward until such time as we appoint Laudrup's successer!...............<ok>
     
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    Plastic your objectivity and candid approach is refreshing, considering the shock waves still reverberating around the Laudrup camp, I'm sure they will quieten down once we gat back to winning ways!..............<laugh>
     
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    Plastic will find the next thing to drive a wedge into between fans
     
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    Difference is that Southampton had a plan, they had a man lined up. Even Cardiff had a man lined up. We have Gary Monk.
     
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    Rich coming from one of those calling for Laudrups head WHILST he was still the manager. Practice what you preach. So where was your support.

    As for your take on Southampton, lets look how it helped Wolves, they sacked their manager whilst the rest of the league told them they were stupid, remind us how they are doing now. Thats right, they are now in league one, whilst the manager they sacked is at Ipswich and pushing for a playoff spot into the Premier League.
     
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    Southampton appointed a very good, proven and experienced manager. We've got Garry Monk.
     
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    No worries lads Monk will get Plastic's full support , for now .
     
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    For crying out loud Ivor! If you cannot see that this is a very short gap situation then I give up, you'd swear he is now our permanent manager, honestly...........<doh>
     
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