Off Topic Ukraine

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brisbane-lion said:
We are lead to believe only what we are being told/shown. I was looking carefully at pictures of damage in Kiev streets and noticed that the damage shown was the same from three or four different angles, making it look like the whole street had been bombed. Our press did the same when we had an earthquake a few months ago. One wall, yes, ONE WALL , fell down but according the the TV footage it was half the town! A number of shots all from differing angles, but the same pile of bricks. Pictures don't lie? Who says so? Now before I cop all the flack, I don't agree with what's going on in Ukraine and I don't doubt there is some serious sh*t going down, but, please, let's look beyond the 'news' reports.
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The official RUS (plus the Chechen Brigade vids - the ones left alive after posting selfies, that is) and DNR output showing their tanks and Helos cutting about UKR, especially Mariupol and the Donbas, shows that vast chunks of UKR have been absolutely flattened. Mariupol and the outskirts of Kyiv now look like Stalingrad 1943. It aligns with all the other media stuff.
 
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Brizzlewhite said:
The official RUS (plus the Chechen Brigade vids - the ones left alive after posting selfies, that is) and DNR output showing their tanks and Helos cutting about UKR, especially Mariupol and the Donbas, shows that vast chunks of UKR have been absolutely flattened. Mariupol and the outskirts of Kyiv now look like Stalingrad 1943. It aligns with all the other media stuff.
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I'm not saying it isn't serious, Brizz, but it can be made to look a lot worse with some judicious editing.
 
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The answer of course is to nuke moscow but it will never happen. Russia is run by fear and subterfuge. Do not expect the russian people to rise up against the dictators.
It has been said the mothers of the dead russian soldiers will spread the truth of what happened in the Ukraine. Anyone who starts spouting off will be given a swift ticket to the east. Russians like murdering their own people and will continue to do so.
The west will sanction russia economically and they will hit the west back the same. Germany buys a lot of gas off them.
 
wakeybreakyheart said:
The answer of course is to nuke moscow but it will never happen. Russia is run by fear and subterfuge. Do not expect the russian people to rise up against the dictators.
It has been said the mothers of the dead russian soldiers will spread the truth of what happened in the Ukraine. Anyone who starts spouting off will be given a swift ticket to the east. Russians like murdering their own people and will continue to do so.
The west will sanction russia economically and they will hit the west back the same. Germany buys a lot of gas off them.
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Everything you say here is true, Wakey, but the sad thing is, what can we realistically do?
 
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