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Off Topic UKCPS Parking Fine Letter

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Wildie, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. Wildie

    Wildie Well-Known Member

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    My partner (registered keeper of the car) has received a letter charging £100 for parking in the Staples Car park but then going off site. The letter states that a notice wad affixed to the car advising of the parking charge at the time (it wasnt), and now 21 days have lapsed we have no right to appeal.

    Has anyone appealed these parking charges? The fact is, I actually visited the Monster Supplements shop on the site of the car park but then did leave the site for 10 minutes. As there was no parking notice on the car and we are only hearing about this a month later, is it right to assume they have no photo evidence?

    Should I appeal or ignore?
     
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  2. Carmine Galante.

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    Exactly the same thing happened to me at that bastardising car park, I'd actually bought some golf balls from American Golf but you catch my drift.

    I rang up saying there wasn't a ticket on my windscreen so I wasn't paying the increased amount. The crafty twats said as a good will gesture they'd allow me to pay the lesser amount, which I duly did.

    Wish I'd contested it now.

    I won't buy anything from any of those shops now as point of principle and used to spend a bit in American Golf.

    They can all get to **** now.

    Arseholes, the lot of 'em.
     
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  3. DMD

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    I have read plenty of claims about what can and can't be done, but I'm not sure what the reality of things is.

    As they're asking you for money for using their services, I don't think it's unreasonable for you to ask for proof.

    I know someone that successfully contested one by looking at the guidance for car park enforcement companies and they couldn't demonstrate that they had complied with their own guidelines.
     
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  4. philhul

    philhul Well-Known Member

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    If you YouTube parking fines there are some excellent examples of what the law states an how to avoid paying. In reality they are not legal claims. On hols at moment but will post links tomorrow
     
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  5. TygerTyger

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    This is not a parking fine, it's a parking charges. They haveven no authority to fine you. Ignore it or tell them to sod off. If you offer to pay the reasonable parking fee (say a few quid) they haven't got a leg to stand on. But you want photographic proof first.
     
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  6. Amin Yapusi

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    I got a ticket at Stansted airport the other week. My mate was walking down the road so I pulled up and let him in and as if they were waiting for me this little **** in a smart car flew out the junction and started taking photo's. I duly stepped on the pedal and flew off as fast as I could but they got my reg plate and a parking charge came through the post this week, complete with an image of my mate one foot in and hanging on to the car whilst I was driving off.

    I'm not paying it the ****s. They're not a council so as far as I'm concerned they can **** the **** off.
     
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  7. Plum

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    If you appeal via legal process you need legal advice. You are not claiming you were not in the car park, only that there was no notice fixed to your screen. However I'm assuming there was a board on display somewhere stating that charges applied if you parked there and left the site so they could claim you should have taken heed of that regardless of anything stuck to your car.
     
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  8. Barmbys_Tan

    Barmbys_Tan Well-Known Member

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    I was in a similar situation. Received a fine and it wasn't council so I just ignored it. It seemed a bit steep when it came through.

    They kept hounding me with letters and I tried to appeal saying I would pay them if they sent me the photographic evidence they claimed to have (I hadn't seen it) but they didnt. It ended up with them taking me to court, they showed a letter they had sent to the house originally with picture evidence (however I never received it, but I couldn't prove it)

    Long story short. I ended up paying an extortionate amount when the court case was ruled in their favour.

    Unless you have good reason (like you didn't actually break the rules) i would just pay it. It's not worth the hassle and expense of court.
     
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  9. Building 7

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  10. Building 7

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    I parked in the same car park and got a ticket on my screen. The ticket is an invoice for parking there. If you choose to ignore it they may write to you claiming payment. If you still choose to ignore or not pay they could take you to court for breach of contract.
    When you enter the car park you are deemed to have accepted the terms and conditions on the signs that are up e.g. if you park here you agree to pay us £100. By parking there they and the law say you have entered into the contract.
     
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  11. Building 7

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    To enter into a contract certain formalities need to have happened (about 7) Mr Shoes can confirm. Anyway if you can argue most of the 7 essential things of a contract formation didn't happen then you are getting on the right side of the legal argument. I studied the signs in the car park , there were so many vagaries in the wording and lack of definitions I thought I had a good case. In any event if it went to court and they win they should only be awarded their loss for you parking in an half empty car park in Hull .....£3.50 ?....ok they maybe awarded costs. In my case they didn't even follow up my ticket with a letter. I was all prepared to fight my case , a bit disappointed they didn't take me to court. If anyone wants more detail about that car park and who owns the land and a good case to put before the court let me know.
     
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  12. Amin Yapusi

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    What are these 7 wonders?
     
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  13. Building 7

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    The other thing to do is contact the retail store , Staples or Am Golf as a disgusted customer...they can soon quash the claim.
     
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  14. The Omega Man

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    The parking charge is not legally enforceable unless if goes to court. The solution is quite simple, send posts orders for the same amount as the parking fee plus £10 for the administration.
    This is a reasonable amount and it would be acceptable in any court.
    Do not ignore it as they will load more charges. In the case of stopping in a no stopping zone, the charge should be the same as on a local authority's fine.
    If you get a letter with my name on it, you are ****ed, I charge £282 just for knocking at hour door.
     
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  15. Amin Yapusi

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    I stopped in a no stopping zone. Double yellows, obviously not proper ones as it private land but still.

    Can't I just fob them off and pay them the price of a parking ticket (£3 or something?)
     
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  16. Building 7

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    I stand to be corrected but something like ;
    Consideration
    Capacity
    Formality
    Legality
    Intention
    And 2 others !...google should have the answers.

    So for example 'Capacity' refers to being an adult and of sound mind.
    'Legality' means it has to be legal eg 2 drug dealers can't make a legally binding contract because under current law their product is illegal.
     
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  17. Carmine Galante.

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    That particular car park is free for patrons using the shops on site.

    If, like me, you have the temerity to wander off for twenty minutes to a nearby shop not on site they stiff you.

    That said you can't send the fee in the post because there isn't one, if that makes sense.

    I ended up paying, I just didn't fancy my chances should the grasping ***ins take me to court.
     
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  18. Building 7

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    I forgot the two obvious ones ; Offer and Acceptance.
     
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  19. Building 7

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    The guy that issues the tickets sits in the far corner of the car park in a small white car all day long even on a Sunday. He is not an Official or Council Warden (because it's private land) he is just a bloke with a pad of invoices.
     
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  20. Building 7

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    The slight problem with you communicating with them is you will be giving them your name and email address or even worse your home address. This is something they otherwise need to pay the DVLA for. It appears in my case they didn't bother.
     
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