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Two DRS zones for Montreal but only one detection zone ?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Sportydan, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. Sportydan

    Sportydan Active Member

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    Reading an article earlier on today, i saw that there will only be one detection zone at the end of the hairpin before the penultimate straight.

    Speaking at the Mclaren phone in Paddy Lowe says :


    This seems strange that if a driver has overtaken already by the end of the first zone, they can use it again to further their advantage.

    Some people have said it is good that the driver can pull away, to challenge the other driver to catch back up and re overtake, i for one am not fully convinced by this idea.

    So what do people on not606 think, two activation zones or one ?.

    Thanks for reading !
     
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  2. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member
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    I don't think the second zone would be long enough to re-over take easily anyway. But I guess they did this just to make sure that there is limited possibility of having the same two cars just swapping positions lap after lap.
     
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  3. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    for sure there should be an activation zone for both, it seems insane for there not to be.
     
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  4. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    This is ridiculous. I thought they were talking about some special new technology they had to allow this, and it's exactly the same as the other races.
     
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  5. random92

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    Red Bull's shall be done on the straights, as they have lower top speed, due to Renault powerplant. Mercedes and Ferrari offers up more power, and with the chance of a badly functioning KERS, maybe this is the race where the fight starts. Speaking of KERS, has anyone noticed, that during races, when the Red Bull DO have KERS, Vettel certainly only ever uses half of it? It's not a broken graphic, because this always happens. Anyone got an article to explain this?
     
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  6. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Sandbagging. <ok>
     
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  7. genjigonzales

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    The original thread on this stated right at the start (well, the OP linked to it and PMC's post quoted it) that the two activation zones had to be consecutive straights because there would only be one detection zone. What's the fuss about?

    I think the idea was that a DRS-assisted overtake will require both straights to accomplish but when it's done the overtaken driver shouldn't be in a position to immediately get back past.
     
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  8. TheModestMatt

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    A silly race to start 2 DRS zones. This track is already perfect for overtaking, they should've saved it for Valencia imo. But hey im not complaining, anything to catch those Red Bulls :)
     
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  9. Delete Me

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    here's hoping for rain ;)

    Would be very grateful if you could all play this:

     
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  10. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    As I've said before - Red Bull will be reminded by Bernie not to run away with it - else the FOTA club lose income pretty damn quick.
    Expect mishaps any time soon.
     
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  11. random92

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    You reckon? It's like clockwork, he only ever uses half. Am I the only one whose noticed this so far?
     
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  12. DHCanary

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    Is the on screen graphic a percentage? Or is it just worked out based on how much they should have? Maybe Red Bull have a half-sized KERS unit? I can't see why, but its an explanation.
     
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  13. Sportydan

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    Definitively not, i have seen it in the races, almost around half battery used, i wonder have they a half sized KERS by any chance, or else hes too lazy to hold it down.
     
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  14. random92

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    I think it's amount of what they should have, as thy all go down in equal blocks, i.e, as it discharges, the graphic changes at the same rate for all drivers
     
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  15. Forza Bianchi

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    I don't see the point of a second activation point. Canada usually produces a lot of overtaking anyway, so the sensible option would be to have the DRS zone after the hairpin. There's no need for a second DRS zone - not in Canada.

    Maybe we'll get rain and the DRS won't even be used!
     
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  16. TheModestMatt

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    Just imagine though if mclaren and ferrari out qualify red bull, but the rain plays into their hands during the race and gives seb another victory, surely not :(, well you heard it here first
     
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    Gotta keep the pot boiling like last season. Gotta keep the media dribbling at the amount of drivers still in with a chance, because that's what makes exciting Grand Prix racing, right kids?

    Michael Schumacher's domination affected viewing figures, and not in a good way. Bernie didn't get to be where he is today by allowing viewing figures to plummet because of a German in the best car winning all the races.
     
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  18. ErnieBecclestone

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    Berg: are you you saying F1 is a fix, I know you may be a tad cynical as myself, but surely not !
     
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  19. Bob Bobbinz

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    I think the only reason the FIA are upholding the off throttle blown diffuser ban is because it will hamstring the RBs in quali. Not particulaly a bad thing as it will be good to see what Vettel can do from somewhere other than pole position.

    As for the double DRS zone, I'll wait and see what happens, I'm sure some pretty clever people have looked at it and worked it out. I just hope that the FIA haven't now shifted their focus from having a "penaltyfest" in 2007-2008 to an "overtakingfest". I'd rather have quality over quantity anyday.
     
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  20. genjigonzales

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    I'm not sure if Button pointed this out in the press conference but it sounds a reasonable assumption to me. Not just two cars but any number of cars who are behind but within a second not of the defender but of the car ahead of them. I'm not sure it's wrong, though, if the driver at the head of the pack is causing a Trulli train.
     
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