By a club representative at the end of the game. Then somebody kicks the ref on the floor. Cant think of a more disgraceful thing I have seen in prifessional football. Absolutely horrendous.
absolutely shocking Attacked by the club President no less All football in Turkey suspended https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67688071
It's the way the game is going, unfortunately. Results mean more and more, and those in charge of those games have zero accountability. People lose their jobs, clubs can lose millions in revenue, based upon the decisions of someone who at worst gets a game in a lower league as 'punishment' At best it's incompetence that always goes uncorrected, at worst it's potentially corruption hiding behind the system. I'm not condoning it, but I can see why it's beginning to happen. I'm amazed a club hasn't sued the referees governing body yet. It's coming.
The behavior towards referees generally has been getting worse and worse and sadly this was coming. Minimum of a 30 point deduction and a 10 year ban for the President and all other individuals involved should send a clear message to all - anything less and it is a demonstration that football doesn't care. Infantino already making statements along the lines that this is now down to the Turkish FA - if he had anything about him he should have added that FIFA would look to step in if they don't treat this with the seriousness it warrants. On an unrelated note I read that Greek football has banned all fans until February due to recent violence - football is most definitely teetering on the brink of returning t the 70's if it is not too careful.
A disgusting attack, let's just see how the governing body sort this out, FIFA seem to be taking a backward step already...but I'm not surprised. I get that the Turkish FA are in charge of their own football but this is an opportunity as others have said for the big bosses to grow a pair. Watch this space.
Abhorrent behaviour from someone who should know better. He has destroyed the reputation of the club he represents and cast a dark shadow over the sport we love. A lot of people forget that without officials, there is no football! We all get frustrated with poor officiating, but referees are human and will make mistakes. If ever there was an opportunity for wholesale change it is now, because it's all getting way out of hand. FIFA must act to protect match officials with harsh punishments for offending clubs and individuals.
The real problem is not the mistakes refs make in my opinion. It is the pressure they are put under by everyone because that pressure makes a high mistake environment. The reality is there are 24 fellas on the pitch in any game and the 3 who makes the least mistakes are the officials, but the 3 receiving dogs abuse from all sides are the same folk. It needs to stop and I would start with managers / coaches. A lot of them set a horrendous example. Look at Klopp and Arteta - shameful. Clough would never allow his players to behave like other teams, ever. They roll up at Utd and start behaving like bairns who arent getting any sweets. It is about standards and respect. If you behaved toward a bus driver like you did to a ref you would be arrested. It is a fundamental human respect issue. Football has too little of it. As always it travels down to grassroots football. Every week it seems clubs are suspended because a coach or a parent has assaulted the ref, often a minor. Not too long ago I saw a big fella on the touch line shouting at a young ref, about 14. This young refs dad stepped in and asked him to stop, but this fella threatened the father. I stepped in, escorted the refs father away for his own safety and the fella threatened me next! Parents of his team backing him up saying the ref was ****e and needs to be called out. Unbelievable behaviour at what was an u11s game. It is always the case that the professional game sets the standards. When it comes to the abuse of refs they have not grasped the nettle at all.
I think that in years gone by it was accepted that referees are doing a really difficult job to the best of their abilities. That acceptance has gone because we've got professional referees who are clearly desperate to be the centre of attention. Everyone wants to be Collina. The doubt comes because of the performances and the lack of accountability.
That's the nub of it. Plus managers in interviews trying to gain leverage. When the day comes and a manager complains bitterly about a clearly incorrect decision that goes FOR his team, then I'll respect them. Until then, we can look at the example of Brian Clough and know that it is possible to accept the ref's decisions.
Your attitude is typical of the way the game is going at present, the officials make mistakes, of course they do, but they need help and support, not criticism , and in this case, a violent attack The game is going to the dogs, the awful attitude and disrespect toward officials needs to stop
There's been a respect campaign within football for years. I've been following the grandson from 6 til now he's 16, seen all this grandparent/parent venting they're spleen at Refs of all ages and abilities and it's shamefull to see a 14 year old Ref trying his best to learn his trade being treated like this. The Grandson has been Reffing 2 years now and has been 'promoted' to the adult game this season and is doing well. Little example...he's Reffed the same team twice within a month, first game they win and the coach gave him 10/10 and shook his hand after the game. Second game he gave 2 stonewall penalties against this team, they lost and the coach refused to shake his hand and have him a 3. This is a grown man in his forties acting like a child, I felt like punching him the useless bastard. Just a grassroots look at what can happen to these bairns trying to forge a career in a sport he loves, played and realised he was never going to be good enough to step up but saw Refereeing as a possibility. Something's got to be done by the authorities.
They clamped down on it for about 3 games at the start of the season with the correct injury time etc and people being punished for mouthing off and kicking the ball away then went back to normal. Just stick to the rules and people will sharp stop breaking them.
the highlighted bit is the one failure of the governing bodies. If a referee believes that they have made no mistakes and are not accountable to some degree then then how can they improve. Criticism is all well and good and can lead to improvements if utilised correctly, but to basically attack a referee and punch him in the face is totally unacceptable no matter what the situation is and they should be dishing out the most severe of punishments to this man and anybody else involved.
It is horrendous mate. At the minute in the grassroots game there isnt anywhere near enough refs. By the time you get to u15s and up you rarely get allocated a ref because it needs to be an adult really and they wont do it. So we need these young lads to come through. Why should they have to put up with coaches and parents behaving like arseholes. I dont do much with grassroots teams anymore. I pick and choose a bit now I am older. I do though watch a fair bit and I see some crap spouted by parents when they dont know the rules. Couple of years ago I went to watch my mates lad play, u16s. Ref didnt show up so I volunteered. I pulled both coaches in at the start and said any ****e and I call the game off. I said to all the players they get 1 warning on dissent then it is a yellow. Booked 2 in the first 15 and it stopped. 1 parent shouting the odds so I shouted back, with a slice of humour, and parents laughed and it stopped. Game was decent in the end, but young lads arent ever going to learn how to handle games because they will be put off. I do agree with authorities needing to get a grip. But it really should start with coaches. When I ran grassroots teams my assistant was an ex Rugby player. Absolute **** hot on discipline. We said right at the outset to any parent of player, any crap behaviour towards refs and you are subbed or sent home. He was a bit like Joe Marler so no bugger argued with him either. It isnt difficult to have a bit of respect about how you act as a coach and set an example to kids.
How do you improve the performance of referees without criticism? They've had mountains of help and support, and here we are. It's the perception that there's no accountability for poor performance that causes the frustration which ultimately leads to the more extreme reactions from players and managers. Until that's addressed it's just going to get worse IMHO.
Club president saying he only "slapped him" https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/watch-turkish-club-president-punches-referee-8m9bqmvf2 please log in to view this image
