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TRASH Get Minimal JR..

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by wizered, Nov 15, 2013.

  1. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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  2. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Bring back hanging

    ****ers the lot of them. Small minded, liberal, no blame people who have made this country (not only this city) a laughing stock

    Elsewhere in the UK if a new stadium or 2 was seen as being beneficial to a city and economy the local council would embrace it with open arms.
     
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  3. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    we all get a vote in the local elections so lets use them................

    vote the millstones out
     
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  4. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    The stadium has permission via the council.

    Sainsbury's should be treated as a separate issue. It is not a enabling development. I see nothing wrong with the local populace [and traders] contesting the process. They are the ones who will live with it.
     
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  5. Sapphire

    Sapphire Well-Known Member

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    Just ensure you get your facts right Cliftonville.

    The Rovers stadium planning is a done deal agreed by all in South Glos.

    Sainsbury's comes under Bristol CC. All was agreed after numerous planning processes.

    The JR relates to a procedural error which was made by BCC in the planning process, which the High Court judge has recognised as a valid reason for further debate. It is unusual that JRs go further than this stage.

    BCC made a cock-up over the Green field issue for AG which has caused the end of that process. And they are responsible for the cock-up over Sainsbury's application at the Memorial stadium.

    TRASH confuse the issue by constantly digging up their objections to the Sainsbury supermarket, but their only justifiable argument at present is that does BCC's error constitute sufficient grounds to rethink the whole process.

    Bristol still lives in the same world which has reduced us from the second most important city in the land to what are we now eighth?
    Bristolian's have in the past and I fear always will object to change until it's too late. That's why we live in this depressed state of poor facilities, poor road structure, two crap football clubs instead of one decent one.............
     
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  6. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    I understand. I can see why people in that area would object, with any means at their disposal. Will Bristol die without another supermarket, or another, or the next? No.

    Will all these supermarkets have a detrimental effect? The answer for many is a clear yes.

    Progress is a perception. Another supermarket?? Lovely area up there. Will Sainsburys spoil that? For me it will.
     
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  7. Sapphire

    Sapphire Well-Known Member

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    Sorry mate.but incorrect again. The majority of people in the area want the supermarket!! Its the Green plonkers who are objecting as usual.
     
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  8. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    .....“As a group we have been incredibly heartened by the support we have received from the local community. Donations continue to come in and we have already raised over £16,000 towards legal costs including the £10,000 protective costs order which we will be required to pay Bristol City Council should the review not be found in our favour.

    “The fact that so many people have donated from their own pockets clearly demonstrates how strongly opposed the local community is to having a Goliath supermarket on this historic World War I memorial site.....

    This bit of the article shocked me that so many people in the area have contributed to this groups legal costs fund...
     
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  9. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    I object to a supermarket being built on a war memorial also..

    And don't be giving me its just the gates nonsense.. that playing ground was left ' in memoriam' of world war casualties for the use of rugby..
     
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  10. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Majority? Which evidence base are you using? What demographic? Local traders associations? All local Councillors?

    Walking round by the cricket ground [my son trains in the crickets sports centre] I see no evident signs of a community galvanizing itself in support of Sainsburys.
     
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  11. Bluebaldee

    Bluebaldee Total Git

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    Cliftonville - did you say that Sainsbury's is not an enabling development? Yes it bloody is!

    The bottom line is that the supermarket was given planning permission. Elected councillors passed it. Consideration was given to local traders, proximity to other supermarkets, war memorials and all that jazz. It still passed. The JR is procedural - it isn't looking at the facts behind the actual decision.

    It will be built, it's just incredibly frustrating that it will be subject to expensive and annoying delays. Bristol City have experience the same frustration, from the same cabal of petty local politicians.
     
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  12. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Sainburys buying the site will provide funds for another build. That is not the same as a legally defined term within the planning applications, or has it been legally defined as such? Sainsburys buying Ashton Gate has not been considered in that legal manner.
     
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    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    double posts ...
     
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  14. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    SUPERMARKETS....................The problem with the UK and Bristol in particular is the population explosion caused by people coming to live here legally and otherwise., these immigrant populations tend to have large families, there should be a cap on the number of children allowed per marriage. Supermarkets are the basis from where people survive, Ok we could go back to the corner shop, and I do support these in a small way although they are more expensive.

    you need to really think about things futuristically, Bristol has a population of 500,000, in 10 years the UK population WILL GO UP BY over 5,000,000 (12-15% increase) Bristol now covers approx. 150 sq miles.
    In circa 2025 the uk will need to replicate "Bristol 2013" x10 however Bristol will likely need to expand to around 165 square miles and have at least another 8 supermarkets. basic items like water supply and sewerage, gas and electricity, will need additional sources and substations ....IN BRISTOL WE JUST ABOUT COPE!

    imagine.... IN ABOUT 15 YEARS TIME SOMEWHERE SPREAD OUT IN/OVER THE UK WILL BE A CITY THE SIZE OF LONDON, OR ANOTHER 50 TOWNS THE SIZE OF BATH................OR 275 TOWNS THE SIZE OF KEYNSHAM.......OR 400 NEW THORNBURYS......... OR.....
     
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  15. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Should of sold it to Costa or McDonalds they never have problems springing up everywhere.
     
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  16. smhbcfc

    smhbcfc Well-Known Member

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    In circumstances like this wouldn't it be the right thing to do from a democratic point of view to do what the majority of the people want?

    Shame it would cost too much money to have a referendum.

    Next time the local elections come up ask the politicians questions when they knock on your door - ask them their views on this stadium and Ashton Vale - then get out there and VOTE
     
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  17. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Think everyone knows my option for all of these ground issues.
     
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  18. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'The problem with the UK and Bristol in particular is the population explosion caused by people coming to live here legally and otherwise'

    Full Stop.

    Many thanks to the wonderful Labour Party.
     
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  19. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Yep labour have put this country where it stands,and god help us when all these eastern europeans arrive,taking more of our money,more of our schools,more of the nhs,the country went to the dogs under the last goverment.
     
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  20. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Amen - Thanks to Blair and Brown The Clown. The Labour Party should be outlawed for the irrecoverable damage they've done to the UK over the last 20 years in so many ways
     
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