I know the past 3 weeks has been tough for us and we had a very bad start to the season without a win yet but i've got no worries. Yes things has changed for Man Utd since the league's greatest ever manager sir alex retired, we had a horrible season with Moyes and now bad start with Van Gaal but i knew we will have a tough start, this was expected even Van Gaal himself said it will be a tough first month because the players needs to get used to the new formation and it will take time and also injuries ain't helping us either. we got new signings and we finally got a player who can produce a goal out of nowhere in Di Maria, a player who can make one special moment which can win us a game, i don't think we had that since Ronaldo left us. things will get better for us, once we get going and started to adapt to the new formation, things will start kicking on from there, we finally got a winger who can actually produce good crosses into the box and can run at full-backs and can also produces chances for Van Persie, that could be key because we all know if Van Persie is given good chances he will most likely score. Another good thing is that Van Gaal knows how to keep Van Persie fit because we need Rooney and RVP partnership because when them both are fully fit and match fitness, their partnership is good, it was a shame last season we hardly had them both playing together. Plus Van Gaal is a proven manager who has won titles at spain and Germany, i know the premier league is different but Van Gaal ain't stupid, he knows what hes doing and he will get it right. It took time for Barca and his Bayern and even Holland to adapt to his style but once they did they were brilliant. Trust me once Van Gaal gets things going and players get used to his methods and key player's coming back from injury like Carrick who i think we badly miss at midfield, someone who can keep the ball and not panic and give it a way like Cleverley and we need to get RVP back to full match fitness, we will get better. it will take time but i have believe and we all should. Let the media and rival fans say whatever they want, they are making the most of the bad time we are having after 20 years but it won't be for long. New Era, new Man utd but we will be back. Man utd will never die
Well put together Antonio-Valencia. This part sums it up perfectly it will take time but i have believe and we all should. Let the media and rival fans say whatever they want, they are making the most of the bad time we are having after 20 years but it won't be for long. New Era, new Man utd but we will be back. Man utd will never die Part of football is taking the bad times as well as the good. And when it gets better, which it will, then its our turn to swipe back at the wums. Having put up with 20 years of it pre SAF, when you give it back it feels so much better
You are right, but "taking the bad times" doesnt mean you should sit there grinning like a ****** whilst a League 1 team demolishes you 4-0. If people complain about the squad, that doesnt mean they aren't "taking the bad times" they are taking them, they just aren't happy about it, which is understandable, I mean, who wants their team to be ****?
Where did I say "grinning like a ****** ?" Last nights result was an embarrassment but it happens. You have to live with it. What I don't agree with is all the "plastic" suggestions of sacking LVG, or wanting to support other clubs. Last night was as bad as losing to a very young Harry Redknapp when he managed Bournemouth, as that was our first team. I didnt see the game last night, but heard most of the second half on the radio driving back. From what I heard, United were dreadful, hence my comments of Not fit to wear the shirt. LVG made a comment to the press that the playrs tried hard. I bet in private afterwards he wasn't as polite as that, and they all will have faced the LVG equivalent of the hairdryer. One of the first rules of man management is praise in public, criticise in private. I would imagine very few of last nights squad are looking forward to facing training today
I just find it hilarious that there is this wave of United fans having a go at other fans because they are complaining and they are being told that they can't complain because they have had it too good etc. Complaining is fine when your team lose, no one WANTS to lose. Acting like a petulant child isn't fine. But for the most part you guys on here have been fine about your s**t fortunes in the last 15 months. Personally I would rather read complaining posts than ones where people are blindingly optimistic to the point of delusion, thats just embarrassing. But maybe thats just because its more fun for me
It wasn't like the lost 1 0 to a plucky side, they were f**ing mauled by Dons and showed nothing with several first teamplayers involved. Welcome to English Football LvG
Horrible. Truly destroyed. And the experienced players were worse than the youngsters. Every one of those "seniors" last night needs to be shipped out. United need a clean slate with anyone linked to Ferguson not performing sold (if anyone will buy them) or given free transfers. PS: in a funny way being thrashed 4-0 is better than 1-0. It drives home to all (fans and club) that the rebuilding does not stop at buying one or two very expensive players. There needs to be a constant process of renewal. It should now be clear to all (unless people bury their heads in the sand) that the SAF squad is now finished (or should be). Apart from De Gea, Rooney, RVP no one should feel their place is safe.
Many of our supporters gave others stick during Manchester United's 20 English league titles ..... it's our turn to man up and take a bit now.
Because in reality and contrary to every rival fan, last nights humiliation meant little more than a pre season friendly.
As a Saints fan it is difficult not to laugh at the misfortunes of Man Utd and your destruction by MK Dons brings back memories of when we similarly inflicted heavy defeats against you at The Dell including the legendary 6-3 pummelling. However, as a Southampton supporter I also realise that Luke Shaw is out injured and think that his arrival in your first team will mark a point at which your fortunes will be reversed. Come November, no one will remember this blip and I think you will be pushing for a top four finish. The irony about Ferguson was his proud boast that his Utd team had replaced Liverpool as the pre-eminent football club in England. This was achieved with devastating effect and Liverpool have never recovered to regain their status and despite acquisition like Adam Lallana, they never will. I'm not a fan of Ferguson and found his to be frequently rude, arrogant and intimidating. That said, his achievement at managing Man Utd is more than equal to the combined achievements of Shankly and Paisley - you could also add Brian Clough to that list and still Ferguson had more ability than the combination. That said, I find it hard to believe that since the appearance of Beckham, Scholes, the Nevilles, Giggs, etc, etc your academy has failed to regularly produce top quality players. Compare this with my team who has produced the likes of Shaw, Bale, Walcott, Oxlade - Chamberlain, Calum Chambers, Lallana and Ward-Prowse in this time as well as having youngsters like Matt Targett and Harrison Reed (currently being monitored by Man Utd.) Your inability to produce such a wealth of talent (Tom Cleverley - probably the least likely England player since Carlton Palmer !) must be Ferguson's only true failure. The recent acquisitions have largely flopped or not had the fighting spirit of early Man Utd teams. I think your scouting system needs to improve and your academy must start delivering. Southampton's development scheme is light years ahead of what you have achieved and the success story is on- going. As the top team in England, you should have the best academy in the country as well as a scouting team who can pick the possible Rickie Lamberts. Get this right and I think you will once again assert yourself. Ian
Last season our first team, the best we have lost 3-0 at home to liverpool. That was a million times worse than losing 4,5 or 200 nil to mk dons or afc wimbledon. The liverpool game was one of about 15 games last season that were worse than last night. Getting spanked at home in the league ffs? Shocking. Some reserve team losing a cup game against a league one side? Happens
Thanks for a genuine article Ian, rather than the wumming, makes a welcome change. Despite all the doom and gloom among the plastics, whatever club you support should be for life, not just in the good times. I have every confidence in LVG (But I thought that about Moyes!) and very grateful we never gave the job to egotistical Jose. If memory serves, wasn't that 6-3 thrashing where we changed shirts at half time? One thing fergy was master at was diverting criticism from the team directly to him. even if we end up with long barren years, it won't shift my loyalty
Wearared bonnet Evening I agree, you should stick by your team. We went down to the third tier which shocked many Saints fans as we hadn't played at such a low level since the early 1960's. Things tend to even out although I think it is the teams that over-reach themselves that will struggle to return to the PL. From recollection, the shirt changing issue was when we won 3-1 the following season. LVG will turn things around by November. It's easy to criticise a third string team, many of whom probably don't figure in even his short term vision for the club but, as I said previously, the return of Luke Shaw will make a difference. He has the capability to be as good a Gareth Bale.
one of the main problems we got in our team is lack of forward passes, player's like Cleverley and even fellaini when he came on against swansea, don't know what to do when their are given pressure, all they do is pass it backwards, why do you think when we got one of the best strikers in Rooney and Van Persie, why do you think we don't score enough goals? its because of the back passes, Cleverley had his chances, he's not improving, im even shocked he's still a united player. Herrare and Mata are the only midfielders which always looks for a forward attacking pass. It's time we need to get rid of players who are constantly under performing. Young is another one, he's a confusing fella, at times when he can cross the ball he passes it to another player but when you don't need to cross it, he crosses it and loses the ball for us time and itme again. I'm actually glad we got Di maria, had enough of wingers who simply can't produce chances and waste the ball, Di Maria can produce chances and even score goals himself, we missed a player like that since Ronaldo left us. Valencia i think should be kept, at least he creates chances and he could be useful when on form. i think we need 1 or 2 defender and another attacking midfielder, Vidal would be great. Van Gaal is a proven manager, he knows how to get us fixed from this mess, he said from the start the first month will be difficult adapting to his formation and our squad was not balanced, he'll fix it up and once we start winning games and getting that momentum and adapting to his style, things will look better for us. after all the success we had there will be dark times like what we are going through now, we will go past that and success will come to us again.
i saw this from a page in facebook named manchester united: red devils passion. " The difference bet'n Van Gaal & Moyes is trust. LVG has earned the right to be respected/trusted with the job. He's succeeded across Europe. He rebuilt sides at Barca & Bayern, winning trophies in the process. Both huge clubs; both high pressure clubs. LVG has had his dips but we know he's got it in his locker to sort this **** out. With Moyes it was pure speculation. He'd never proven it. So yeah, if Moyes was in charge I'd probably be rioting! It's not hypocritical if I don't do the same with LVG; I've already explained why. The other thing to say is that I 100% believe that over the course of the season you'll see massive improvements. Unlike last year. " i posted this because i hear many people saying this is like what happened last season and sacking Moyes didn't make any change and all that but like this post says, this is a different situation than last season, even though it was a tough start to the season and worse than last season but already things are looking like its going to improve as the season goes, better than last season when we showed no signs of improving. Last season Moyes was wasting time trying to sign players we knew ain't going to leave their clubs while this season we got the players the manager wanted and more signings might still come.
Actually,it wasn't a reserve team at all. The game was between MK Dons and Man.Utd.,and not MK Dons against Man Utd Reserves,or even a Man.Utd,. X1. Van Gaal put a team out that he felt were going to win, Well,he got that wrong. Making such a statement is merely an attempt to diminish MK Don's achievement and make you,clearly a sore loser, feel a bit better about yourself and the team you support. I seem to remember that 0-3 home mauling by Liverpool. Didn't they rest over half of their first team for that game?
