please log in to view this image Queens Park Rangers host Tottenham Hotspur at Loftus Road on Saturday 21st April in the 35th round of 2011-12 Premier League matches (34th game for Spurs). This will be the 133rd time the two teams have met and Rangers come into the game in 16th place in the table on 31 points, while Spurs are in 4th place on 59 points. Queens Park Rangers were founded in the same year as Tottenham Hotspur - 1882 - with the merger of two local teams, St Jude's and Christchurch Rangers. Most of their players were based in the Queen's Park district of North-West London and the club had a very nomadic early history moving to over 20 different grounds before settling down at Loftus Road in 1917. The White City Stadium was also home for short periods. The first meeting between Spurs and QPR came in November 1890 in the second qualifying round of the London Senior Cup and resulted in a 1-1 draw. Spurs won the replay at home 2-1. The Spurs team featured several of the youngsters who founded the club, including Jack Jull and Robert Buckle. Two friendly matches were played in 1892 & 1893 before the next competitive game in September 1899 in the Southern League. Both teams were also members of the Southern & District Combination League during that 1899-1900 season. Spurs won three of the four matches that season with one match drawn. The clubs played eight more seasons in the Southern League together and were also members of the Western League from 1900-01 to 1905-06. Tottenham generally had the upper hand over their West London rivals during this period . Tottenham Hotspur joined the Football League for season 1908-09 and thereafter matches for the next 40 years against Queens Park Rangers were limited to minor competitions, friendlies and matches played during both World Wars. The first Football League meeting between the two clubs came in Division Two in October 1948 with Eddie Bailey scoring the only goal at White Hart Lane while the return fixture at Loftus Road ended in a 0-0 draw. Spurs did the 'double' over Rangers the next season on their way to the Division Two title, winning 3-0 at the Lane with a Bill Nicholson goal and a brace from Les Bennett, while the reverse fixture at Loftus Road was won 2-0 with goals from Eddie Bailey and Les Medley. As a Third Division club, QPR won the Football League Cup in 1967 beating holders West Bromwich Albion in the first Final held at Wembley Stadium and were also promoted to the Second Division with players like Rodney Marsh, the Morgan twins (Spurs would later sign Roger), Tony Hazell, Mark Lazarus, Mike Keen and former Spurs striker Les Allen. They won promotion again the next season and played their first season in the Top Flight of English Football in 1968-69. Spurs won the home match that season 3-2 with goals from Phil Beal, Alan Gilzean and David Jenkins. The away fixture at Loftus Road ended in a 1-1 draw with Jimmy Greaves scoring for Spurs. QPR were relegated at the end of the season. Rangers were back in the First Division for season 1973-74 and in October they beat Spurs in the Football League Cup second round 1-0. The League match at the Lane resulted in a 0-0 draw and QPR won the away game 3-1 with Martin Chivers scoring from the penalty spot for Spurs. Honours were even the next season with Rangers winning 2-1 at the Lane and Spurs winning 1-0 at Loftus Road - John Duncan scored both of Tottenham's goals. 1975-76 saw QPR finish as First Division runners-up, which was their best ever finish in the Football League. The first FA Cup meeting between the two clubs came during the 1980-81 season and Spurs drew a third round match at Loftus Road 0-0 but won the replay 3-1 at the lane with goals from Tony Galvin, Glenn Hoddle and Garth Crooks. Spurs would go on to win the FA Cup that season. The teams met each other again in the FA Cup the very next season but this time it was in the Final at Wembley. Glenn Hoddle put Spurs ahead in extra time only for Terry Fenwick (later to sign with Spurs) to grab the equaliser five minutes from the end. The replay was held at Wembley five days later and a 6th minute penalty scored by Glenn Hoddle was enough to ensure the silverware would remain in North London. Many neutrals felt that Rangers were hard done by, as they had played very well indeed. Both Queens Park Rangers and Spurs were founder members of the Premier League, but Rangers only managed to remain for four seasons before being relegated at the end of the 1995-96 season. Honours were even during the eight games played in the competition with both Spurs & QPR winning three games each with two matches drawn. The reverse fixture at White Hart Lane in October was won 3-1 by Spurs. First half goals from Gareth Bale and Rafael van der Vaart saw Spurs go in 2-0 up at half-time. Jay Bothroyd scored a header to put QPR a goal behind after 62 minutes but Gareth Bale's second goal of the game ten minutes later ensured that Tottenham would get all three points. Overall, Tottenham Hotspur have won 60 of the 132 matches played so far with Queens Park Rangers winning 33 and the remaining 39 games drawn. please log in to view this image Spurs have won 45.45% of their games against Rangers, while QPR have a 25% winning percentage against Tottenham. Full History of Tottenham Hotspur v Queens Park Rangers Matches 1890-2012 please log in to view this image They Played for Spurs & Rangers.... Clive Allen (player with both clubs & Spurs asst. manager) Joe Allen Les Allen (player with both clubs & QPR manager) Arthur Archer Ossie Ardiles (player with both clubs & Spurs manager) Ronnie Boyce (scout with both clubs) Alan Brazil Tommy Cable Radek Černý Pascal Chimbonda Peter Crouch Chris Day Frank Drabble Mark Falco Terry Fenwick Les Ferdinand Mike Flanagan Theo Foley (QPR reserves coach, Spurs reserves manager) Gerry Francis (QPR player, manager of both clubs) Andy Gray Harry Gilberg George Graham (QPR coach, Spurs manager) Allan Harris (coach with both clubs) Steve Hodge Percy Humphries Ben Ives (player with both clubs, Spurs scout) Stephen Kelly David Kerslake Joe Knowles Billy Lane (Spurs player, QPR coach) Dave McEwan Danny Maddix Bert Middlemiss Roger Morgan Alan Mullery (Spurs player, QPR manager) Tony Parks Dean Parrett Charlie Rance Rohan Ricketts Wayne Routledge Neil Ruddock Frank Saul Peter Shreeves (QPR coach, Spurs manager) Andy Sinton Sleve Slade Peter Suddaby (Academy director with both clubs) Adel Taarabt Erik Thorsveldt Terry Venables (player & manager of both clubs) Kyle Walker Paul Walsh Pat Welton (QPR player, Spurs asst. manager) Alf Wyman Clive Wilson Luke Young please log in to view this image Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2011-12 Queens Park Rangers Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2011-12 Premier League London Derbies 2011-12 Results, Fixtures & Mini-League Table please log in to view this image
Morning THFC very interesting post as usual. QPR always makes me think of Gerry Francis & Terry Venables. in that 70's team. Venables tactical nous first became apparent when he managed that side.
Morning Spurf! I've always had a very soft spot for QPR going back to 1967 and their Third Division Title and League Cup win at Wembley.
Me too 6061. Been a few times with a mate and it's a proper club. Great post once again. As for the match, for the umpteenth time this season, this is a must win. Hope we actually do this time...
Cheers 61 as usual for a great thread. Yep that 67 win was the one that turned the Lge Cup into a major trophy, with its Wembley setting and drama and great goal by Marsh. (Not sure if it carried a Euro place though? Or maybe not for that year because QPR weren't in the top flight?) Unfortunately teams like Villa and Chelsea have got a cheap major trophy to their name, because the pre-67 victories then have to be upgraded for consistency, but the League Cup clearly wasn't a major trophy pre-67.
I didn't imagine that they had beaten us 33 times,that's a surprise as they are hardly a big glamorous club but they have been effective against London clubs this season so we had better watch out for this banana skin.COYS
Just had a look on the QPR board and they've got a thread about the officials. Clattenburg's the ref. What do we have to do to get rid of him? This man's made two of the most high profile **** ups in Premier League history in our games, with both going against us in tight games at Old Trafford, yet we still have to put up with him.
What we have to do is bend the back of the net with strikes from outside the penalty area with none of our players in the box to infringe. Failing that just send him a birthday card.
What a dream team! Clattenburg should be nice and tired for our game too, so he'll make even more mistakes.
6061, before the season is up and I forget, I just want to say a massive "thank you" for your match threads, this season. I've actually learnt a lot of things that I never knew about our club, as well as our opposition. They're always an exceptionally good read, and I really appreciate the time and effort you put in. cheers
In the photos's, did Routledge, Taarabt and Walker's parents all live on the same window cleaners round!
