Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United - Official Buildup/Matchday Thread

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Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United

Wednesday 17th December 2014

Kick off 7.45pm @ White Hart Lane ​

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ACS's View
I think Spurs will beat us 2-1

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Rumour has it Aarons was nearly in the squad for Arsenal... hope he comes back for Spurs.

I hope we play a strong team for this game... but I suspect Pardew will play a weakened team with one eye on the derby.
Having said that..... the kids did alright against City in this very same cup competition....

 

I have to be honest I would rather play a weakened team as long as we beat those bastards next week. If we manage to get through against Spurs ( I think is more than possible), we will just end up getting beat in the semi's anyway against whoever's left. I know that is disgustingly pessimistic but I just know deep down that will happen.

 

I've read somewhere already that Woodman will be making his debut so as to not risk injuring Alnwick before the derby.

 

Pardew has an impossible task here. Most fans are split 50/50 as to which game we should field the strongest team.

I think we should go strong for both with the exception of Colback and Colo. Adrenalin should get the lads through the derby, extra time could kill us though.

For Spurs I'd go:

Alnwick, Anita, Saylor, Dummett, Haidara, Tiote, Sissoko, Cabella, Gouffran, Perez, Riviere

Bench would be: Woodman, Colo, Colback, Abeid, Aarons, Armstrong, Cisse

So quite few benched to have a rest, Janmaat suspended and Sammy having a break completely (he looked shattered yesterday IMO). I'd try and give minutes to Aarons and Abeid from the bench if possible.

For Sunderland I'd go:

Alnwick, Janmaat, Saylor, Colo, Dummett, Abeid, Colback, Sissoko, Aarons, Sammy, Perez

Bench: Woodman, Haidara, Tiote, Cabella, Gouffran, Cisse, Riviere

As I said, many will disagree which shows just how tough a job Pardew has over the next two games. Armstrong doesn't even make the bench for me in the derby, I'd also consider having Sammy on the bench instead of him for the cup game.

 

The Sammy/Aarons/Perez attacking trio will cause SAFC all kinds of problems I feel.
The dilemma for me is Cisse. He's the most in form striker in the prem right now if you look at goals to minutes. It could be argued that the secret to this is him coming off the bench though.... even though my instinct is to start him...

 

I actually do agree and would pretty much go with the line-ups you've mentioned, bar one or two tweaks. But as you say, plenty of others will disagree. So yes, Pards does have an impossible task here. Whichever way he approaches the two match line-ups, half the fans will disagree. So it will all come down to the results. I for one won't judge him on his selections over these two games - unless he does does something completely crazy.

 

That is probably as close as he could come to keeping as many people as happy as possible. Like you say though, impossible to keep them all happy.

I really hope he goes for it in the Spurs game though. Even going for it is no guarantee. Let's not forget Spur have some cracking players and are capable of a good performance when they turn it on - which hasn't been often lately. However, we have a chance and it would be wrong not to try and take it.

We know when our next derby is but we have no idea when our next quarter final is!

 

With Spurs playing tonight, hopefully the extra day and a bit rest for our lads will help.

 

No we've been lucky as **** too many times we will get beat certainly

 

Agree with these but I'd play Cabella and Sammy the other way round.

 

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Tottenham Hotspur host Newcastle United at White Hart Lane on Wednesday 17th December 2014 (KO 19:45) in the 5th Round of the 2014-15 Football League (Capital One) Cup.

Tottenham beat Brighton and Hove Albion 2-0 at home in the fourth round while Newcastle United had an impressive 2-0 win at Manchester City. This will be the 154th time the two clubs have met.

The first meeting came in the old second round (today's fourth round) of the FA Cup in February 1905 with Newcastle drawing 1-1 at White Hart Lane before winning the replay at St James' Park 4-0. To date, the clubs have met 9 times in the FA Cup.

The clubs met for the first time in the Football League in November 1909 in the First Division with Newcastle winning 1-0 at St James' Park and completing the 'double' over Spurs with a 4-0 win at White Hart Lane in March 1910.

Tottenham's first win over Newcastle came in a First Division match at White Hart Lane in November 1912 with Jimmy Cantrell scoring the only goal of the match.

There were further meetings in the First Division up to season 1933-34 with honours generally pretty even.

An FA Cup 4th round match in January 1935 was won 2-0 by Spurs at White Hart Lane with George Hunt (Spurs' record goalscorer until Bobby Smith) scoring both goals.

The next 12 meetings between the clubs came in the Second Division of the Football League either side of World War Two from 1935-36 to 1947-48. These dozen matches were the only League games contested between Spurs and Newcastle outside the Top Flight of English Football.

The 1950-51 season saw Spurs win their first Football League Championship and in the process they did the 'double' over Newcastle winning 7-0 at home and 1-0 away. The 70,336 spectators at White Hart Lane for that emphatic 7-0 win were the largest crowd at any Spurs v Newcastle fixture in history.

Spurs beat Newcastle United in the 1952 Charity Shield 2-1 at White Hart Lane with Les Bennett and Peter 'Spud' Murphy scoring the goals which won the silverware.

The first Football League Cup meeting came in the Semi-Finals in January 1976 with John Pratt scoring the winning goal at White Hart Lane in the first leg but Newcastle winning 3-1 at St James' Park despite a Don McAllister goal to advance to the Wembley Final.

Newcastle United, along with West Ham United, were the first clubs to be promoted to the Premier League for the 1993-94 season and Spurs won the first match against Newcastle in the competition 1-0 away at St James' Park with a Teddy Sheringham goal. The Magpies had their revenge at White Hart Lane in December with a 2-1 win.

An FA Cup Semi-Final at Old Trafford in April 1999 was won 2-0 by Newcastle after extra time. Newcastle lost their Premier League status at the end of the 2008-09 season but won promotion at the first attempt managed by former Spurs player and assistant manager Chris Hughton. Hughton was sacked under contraversial circumstances in December 2010 and Alan Pardew was appointed as Newcastle's new manager.

The fixture at St. James' Park last in October 2011 resulted in a 2-2 draw. Rafael van der Vaart opened the scoring from the penalty spot after 40 minutes. Demba Ba pulled Newcastle level three minutes into the second half but Jermain Defoe's 68th minute goal looked like securing all three points. Substitute Shola Ameobi scored a late equaliser for Newcastle. The reverse fixture at White Hart Lane in February 2012 resulted in a comprehensive 5-0 win for Spurs with goals from Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Louis Saha (2), Niko Kranjcar and Emmanuel Adebayor.

The opening match of the 2012-13 season at St James' Park resulted in a 2-1 win for Newcastle. Demba Ba put United ahead after 54 minutes with Jermain Defoe equalising for Spurs after 76 minutes. Ben Arfa was fouled by Aaron Lennon and he scored from the penalty spot for the winner on 80 minutes.

Spurs won their home League game in February 2013 2-1 with two goals from Gareth Bale, the first coming after 5 minutes from a free-kick and the second after 78 minutes. Yoan Gouffran had levelled things for Newcastle mid-way through the first half.

Newcastle United won the Premier League game in November 2013 at White Hart Lane 1-0 with Loic Remy's 13th minute goal proving to be the match winner. Tim Krul made a string of outstanding saves to keep Tottenham from scoring. An Emmanuel Adebayor goal in the 19th minute saw Spurs go into halftime 1-0 up in the February 2014 game at St James' Park. Further goals from Paulinho, Adebayor and Nacer Chadli completed a comprehensive 4-0 win for Spurs.

Emmanuel Adebayor put Spurs ahead after 18 minutes at White Hart Lane in October 2014 but second-half goals from Sammy Ameobi and Ayoze Perez ensured that the visitors returned to Newcastle with all three points.

Tottenham Hotspur have won 64 of the 153 matches played so far with Newcastle United winning 57 and the remaining 32 games drawn. Newcastle are due to host Tottenham in the Premier League on 18th April 2015.

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Full History of Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United Matches 1905-2014

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They Played for Spurs & Newcastle....​

Ossie Ardiles (Spurs player & manager, Newcastle manager)
Sebastien Bassong
Ted Birnie
Kevin Bond (Assistant manager at both clubs)
Garry Brady
Ivor Broadis
Keith Burkinshaw (Spurs manager, Newcastle coach)
Sol Campbell
Stephen Carr
Jesse Carver (Newcastle player, Spurs coach)
Ray Clarke
Les Ferdinand
John Fleming
Ruel Fox
Tony Galvin (Spurs player, Newcastle asst. manager)
Peter Garland
Paul Gascoigne
David Ginola
Bert Gosnell
Chris Hughton (Spurs player & asst. manager, Newcastle manager)
Jim Iley
Jermaine Jenas
John McTavish
Peter McWilliam (Newcastle player, Spurs manager)
Paul Moran
Taffy O'Callaghan
Alan Pardew (Spurs loanee, Newcastle manager)
Scott Parker
Louis Saha
Kevin Scott
Wayne Routledge
Mark Stimpson
Allan Taylor
Archie Turner
Chris Waddle
Jonathan Woodgate
Charlie Woods (Chief scout with both clubs)

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Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2014-15

Newcastle United Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2014-15​

 

Our league cup record

 

Makes bloody depressing reading that, doesn't it!


Maybe it's time to change it!

 

Got my ticket sorted now.
Looking forward to a good game.

 

You lucky bar steward. Enjoy! Let's hope you witness a Toon win.

 

I have faith in the powers of Cisse to open up a rather colander-like defence.

 

Why would he want to score an own goal?


Oh wait...I see...

 

Newcastle boss Alan Pardew is targeting success in the Capital One Cup as he looks to guide the club to their first piece of silverware for 46 years.

Bobby Moncur captained the Magpies to victory over Ujpest Dozsa in the 1969 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup but they have failed in their subsequent bids to secure a trophy.

United face Tottenham at White Hart Lane on Wednesday having already disposed of Manchester City and Crystal Palace away from home in the tournament.

Pardew will be hoping for a more successful return to north London after seeing his side lose 4-1 to Arsenal in the Premier League on Saturday and in doing so hopes to silence Moncur.

"I call him our president, Bob Moncur is on the bus every week to remind me,” said Pardew. “I can't get away from it, but no-one would be more delighted than Bob if we can achieve something.

"The cup game is something different, we know it's the quarter-final.

"We have beaten two Premier League teams away from home, we have got to do a third time, it will be a tough game, but we will go there very strong.

"The win at Man City did give us energy, it gave us a lift and the win at Palace gave us a lift as well.

"It gives you that spirit to think something can be achieved. It's as important game for Spurs as it is for us.

“One of us will be in the semi-final, both clubs would love to be in that position."




Does this mean Pards will be going for it and fielding a strong line-up? (well, as strong as we can with our available players)

 

Anyone else fancy an upset in the other cup games? Would love to see Bournemouth do over Liverpool.