please log in to view this image Fulham host Tottenham Hotspur at Craven Cottage on Saturday 1st December 2012 (KO 15:00) in the 15th match of the 2012-13 Premier League season. Fulham come into the match in 11th place on 17 points while Spurs are in 5th place on 23 points. This will be the 137th time the two clubs have met and the 23rd time in the Premier League. Fulham were founded in 1879 as Fulham St Andrew's Church Sunday School FC and played under the name Fulham Excelsior until 1888. The first meeting with Tottenham, who were founded three years later than Fulham in 1882, came in the Southern League in September 1903 at Craven Cottage and resulted in a 0-0 draw. The reverse fixture at White Hart Lane in January 1904 was won by Spurs 1-0. Spurs and Fulham also competed in the London League and both fixtures that season were won by Spurs 2-1 at home and 5-1 away. The clubs competed against each other for three more seasons in the Southern League with Fulham winning four games, Spurs winning one and the remaining match drawn. Spurs were Southern League Champions in 1899-1900 and Fulham Champions twice in 1905-06 and 1906-07. There were also two seasons in the Western League in 1904-05 and 1905-06 with Spurs winning twice, Fulham once and one game drawn. The clubs met on tour in May 1907 in Ostend, Belgium in a match which Spurs won 2-1. The first Football League meeting between the clubs came in the Second Division in December 1908 at Craven Cottage with Spurs winning 3-2. Tottenham also won the home fixture in April 1909 1-0 with the great Vivian Woodward scoring the winning goal. A few months earlier, Woodward had captained the Great Britain football team to their second of three Olympic Games Gold Medals. Sandwiched in between those first League encounters was the first FA Cup match in the old second round (today's fourth round) at White Hart Lane, which was won by Spurs 2-0. To date, the clubs have met 8 times in the FA Cup with Spurs winning 5 games, Fulham once and 2 draws. As Spurs had won promotion to the First Division after their maiden season, there were no more League meetings with Fulham until after the First World War. During the War, the clubs met frequently in the various competitions which were created to provide entertainment for the masses and many of Tottenham Hotspur's "home" matches were played at Arsenal's Highbury Stadium as White Hart Lane had been requisitioned by the Army. When football resumed in 1919, Spurs had lost their First Division status to Arsenal under contraversial circumstances and met Fulham in the Second Division in December at Craven Cottage in a game Spurs won 4-1. The reverse fixture was also won by Spurs 4-0 on their way to the Second Division Championship. There were no more competitive matches with Fulham until Spurs were relegated to the Second Division in 1932-33 and both fixtures ended in draws. There were four more seasons of Second Division football before the outbreak of World War Two and honours were even with two wins apiece and four draws in those eight matches. Spurs and Fulham met 13 times during the War with Tottenham winning nine games, Fulham one and three drawn matches. The clubs met in the Second Division for the first three seasons after the War with one win each and four games drawn. Spurs won the First Division Championship in 1950-51 and in the process did the "double" over Fulham 1-0 away and 2-1 at home. The clubs met for another 10 seasons in the First Division up to 1967-68 with Spurs winning 12 games, Fulham one and 7 games drawn. The next League meetings came in the Second Division in 1977-78 with Spurs taking four point off Fulham as they regained their Top Flight status. The first of three Football League Cup meetings came in December 1981 with Spurs winning 1-0 at the Lane with a Micky Hazard goal. Fulham were promoted to the Premier League for season 2001-02 and they've kept their place in the League ever since. Spurs have won nine of the 21 games played so far with Fulham winning six and six matches have been drawn. The match at Craven Cottage in October 2010 was won by Spurs 2-1 with goals from Roman Pavlyuchenko and Tom Huddlestone with Diomansy Kamara getting Fulham's goal, while the reverse fixture at White Hart Lane on New Year's Day was won by Spurs with a Gareth Bale goal. Fulham had a very impressive 4-0 win over Spurs in the fourth round of the 2010-11 FA Cup at Craven Cottage. Danny Murphy put the West Londoners two goals up before Michael Dawson was sent-off for Spurs. Brede Hangeland and Moussa Dembele added further first half goals. In June 2011, Fulham appointed former Spurs manager (2004-07) Martin Jol on a two year contract to replace Mark Hughes as the Cottager's new manager. Both Spurs and Fulham participated in the 2011-12 UEFA Europa League. The reverse fixture at Craven Cottage last season in November 2011 resulted in a 3-1 win for Tottenham. Fulham's Chris Baird deflected Gareth Bale's shot into the net after 10 minutes and Aaron Lennon scored on 45 minutes to give Spurs a 2-0 halftime lead. Younes Kaboul scored an own goal after 57 minutes but Jermain Defoe's 90th minute goal ensured that Spurs went away with all three points. Spurs completed the 2011-12 double over Fulham with a 2-0 home win on the last day of the season which secured 4th place. Emmanuel Adebayor put Spurs ahead in the 2nd minute and a 63rd minute goal from Jermain Defoe secured the three points. During the summer of 2012, former Spurs striker Dimitar Berbatov joined Fulham from Manchester United while midfielder Mousa Dembele and striker Clint Dempsey both joined Tottenham from Fulham. Overall, Spurs have won 70 of the 136 matches played, Fulham have won 30 and the remaining 36 games have been drawn. please log in to view this image Full History of Fulham v Tottenham Hotspur 1903-2012 please log in to view this image They Played for Fulham & Spurs.... Steve Archibald Dimitar Berbatov Ernie Bowering Michael Brown Laurie Brown Vic Buckingham (Spurs player, Fulham manager) Ron Burgess (Spurs player, Fulham coach) Roger Cross (Fulham player, Spurs asst. manager) John Curtis Sean Davis Simon Davies Mousa Dembele Clint Dempsey Terry Dyson Bert Elkin Harry Evans (Fulham player, Spurs asst. manager) Ray Evans Willie Evans Tom Fitchie Theo Foley (Spurs res. manager, Fulham youth manager) Matt Forster (Spurs player, Fulham scout) Phil Gray Martin Jol (Manager with both clubs) Cliff Jones David Gwilan Jones Stephen Kelly Paul Konchesky John Lacy Harry Lowe Ken McKay Tom Meade Terry Medwin (Spurs player, Fulham coach) Paul Mahorn Steed Malbranque John Margerrison Alan Mullery Danny Murphy Taffy O'Callaghan Tim O'Shea Frank Osborne Tony Parks Ernie Payne Tom Pratt Jimmy Reid Wayne Routledge Hans Segers (Spurs player, Fulham coach) Neil Smith Paul Stalteri Bob Stevens Alf Stokes Bob Tannahill Charlie Walters Bobby Zamora please log in to view this image Fulham Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 2001-02 to 2012-13 Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2012-13 Premier League London Derbies 2012-13 Results, Fixtures & Mini-League Table please log in to view this image please log in to view this image
So Fulham are without a win in six whereas we've had three wins and three defeats. This is a match with which I always have a problem especially as they have Berb now and we know about ex Spurs scoring against us. We also have two ex Fulham players going back to CC which makes this a spicy fixture to say the least. Fulham are one of those unpredictable teams who can turn it on against some and be awful against others so I hope their draw/lose sequence continues. Who here can be confident of a Spurs win at the moment? I think if I had to bet on it I'd go for a draw or a narrow away win with Defoe netting.
Every game is difficult to predict atm because we are not a settled side and often lose control of the game and end up holding on. This team is not at the top of its game yet which makes our position in the league quite heartening. I'm sure we can get better but then that could be said of all the teams around us so who knows. Thanks for the thread THFC6061 top notch as always.
I can't wait for us to get settled,and understand the system,because i can see us flying then,to be 5th at the moment,when only playing well for one half,is good imo
Spot on Spurf but one statement needs a comment from me. Yes we are unsettled and yes we can improve and you say that the others around us can. Yes they can but with reservations. Arsenal play Swansea,how much more can Swansea improve than where they are? WBA are blowing very hot and cold and I don't see them improving. Everton too have weaknesses by losing and drawing matches that they should win fairly easily. Fulham and West Ham? Everybody is giving The Hammers a good chance of beating Chelsea because the latter are dire atm,I don't know how much more they can improve though. Liverpool need a lot of money and help. I still feel that we can improve by much more whereas the others only by a little more. Maybe Fulham just need a win to get them rolling I don't know. As you say tots,let's get settled.
will either of the ex players get Boo'ed, do ya think?! it'd be very harsh if they did, IMO. I hated this fixture last year, it was horrific to watch. I remember us getting absolutely battered in our own box for about the last 20 mins. How fulham got nothing, I don't know. I seem to remember some sort of goal line clearance by walker, was it? heroic performance all round, but not something I want us to be going through again. thank god it's not on the box!
Having seen the film, I just thought that particular pic and expression on Konchesky reminded me of the character....just me then!
Ok so will somebody please help this exiled Spurs supporter,who do we most have to fear besides Berb in the Fulham team?
I'm not exactly sure who's fit to play and who isn't, but Bryan Ruiz can be decent when he's in the mood. Petric has scored a few and Rodallega is always a threat. that's about it IMO, unless Damien Duff pulls something out of the bag. On Paper we should win. But BMJ has them playing good football and with it being a derby, you just can't predict these things. On the other hand, we could see the best performances so far out of Dembele and Dempsey...
I absolutely loved this fixture last year, a massive win for us, and I'm gutted that this one isn't on the box, as I am with every non-TV Spurs game. How I'd love another result like last season's.
HI Roo, I don't see why we should win on paper. Fulham's home record is slightly superior to our away record, and they haven't had the tiring run of games we've had recently, plus they have one more day's recovery time. I'd say on paper it should be a draw, with a slight leaning towards a Fulham win. I'll be saving my predictions till after the teamsheets are listed. We're missing ADe suspended, they're missing Hangleland, ditto. Two big absentees. I so hope Caulker is back for Gallas.
A draw or a win is important as a springboard to Swansea and Everton approaching. I can see points gained here.
It'll be hard for Villas-Boas to drop Dempsey for this game, but I'd like him to do it. Push Dembele up with Defoe and stick Huddlestone back in, preferably with someone replacing Gallas at the back, even if it means picking Naughton at left-back and moving Vertonghen across. We need someone with the ability to hold the ball up further up the pitch and a midfielder with a decent range of passing. Both were sorely absent last night.
