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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Crystal Palace

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  1. THFC6061

    THFC6061 Well-Known Member

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    Crystal Palace host Tottenham Hotspur at Selhurst Park on Saturday 10th January 2015 (KO 17:30) in the 21st round of matches of the 2014-15 Premier League season.

    Palace come into the game in 18th place on 17 points with Spurs in 5th place on 34 points. This will be the 95th time the clubs have played each other.

    Crystal Palace were founded in 1905 by the builders of the Crystal Palace (hence The Glaziers nickname) and played their first matches at the old Cup Final ground. They joined the Southern League Second Division for season 1905-06 and won promotion at the first attempt.

    The first meeting between the two clubs came in the Southern League First Division in October 1906 with Spurs winning 3-0 at White Hart Lane and going on to do the double with a 1-0 away win in February 1907.

    The 1907-08 season was the last for Tottenham in the Southern League and the two games against Palace ended with a win each. The clubs also played in the Western League that season with a win for both teams.

    Spurs & Palace were regular opponents during the First World War and Tottenham enjoyed a run of nine consecutive wins against Palace during this period.

    The first competitive game after WW1 came in the 1st Round (modern 3rd Round) of the FA Cup in January 1924 at The Nest in Croydon with Palace winning 2-0. They had previously played their games Herne Hill, Norwood and moved into their purpose-built stadium at Selhurst Park later in 1924.

    Tottenham and Palace played several matches during World War Two with honours generally being fairly even.

    Crystal Palace played their first season in the Top Flight of English Football in the 1969-70 season with Spurs winning both First Division matches 2-0. Jimmy Pearce and Martin Chivers got the goals at Selhurst Park while Alan Mullery and Steve Perryman were the scorers at White Hart Lane.

    The clubs were also drawn together in the 4th Round of the 1969-70 FA Cup with Palace progressing after a 1-0 win in the replayed match in South London after the first game was goalless at the Lane.

    Palace remained in the First Division for a further three seasons with Spurs winning four of the six matches and drawing the other two.

    The clubs met in Division Two in 1977-78 with Spurs winning 2-1 at Selhurst Park (Ian Moores & John Duncan) and Palace getting a 2-2 draw at the Lane with Glenn Hoddle scoring a brace for Spurs. Tottenham won promotion at the end of that season. Crystal Palace were back in the First Division for season 1979-80 and both matches against Tottenham were drawn.

    The first Football League Cup game came in September 1980 with a 0-0 3rd Round draw at White Hart Lane followed by a 3-0 win at Selhurst Park in the replay with Ricky Villa, Glenn Hoddle and Garth Crooks all scoring.

    The Eagles were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 but only lasted a season before being relegated. They returned for the 1994-95 season but fared no better and were again relegated. Their third season came in 1997-98 but failed to establish themselves and were relegated.
    Palace were back again for the 2004-05 season but once again dropped down to the Championship.

    The game at Selhurst Park in August 2013 was settled by a 50th minute Roberto Soldado penalty after Dean Moxey handled Aaron Lennon's cross. Spurs completed the Double over Palace with a 2-0 win at the Lane in January 2014 with goals from Christian Eriksen and Jermain Defoe.

    Crystal Palace were unlucky not to win at White Hart Lane in the December 2014 Premier League game which finished in a goalless draw.

    The eleven Premier League matches played between the two clubs resulted in four wins to Spurs and two to Palace with five games drawn.

    Overall, Tottenham have won 42 of the 94 matches played so far with Crystal Palace winning 25 games and the remaining 27 drawn.

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    Full Record of Tottenham Hotspur v Crystal Palace Matches 1906-2015

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    They Played for Spurs & Palace...

    Clive Allen
    Dean Austin
    Chris Armstrong

    Jimmy Bauchop
    Ken Bennett
    Ted Birnie
    John Bostock
    Terry Boyle
    John Brearley
    Johnny Brooks
    Fraizer Campbell

    Arthur Crompton
    Jason Cundy
    Edgar Davids
    Chris Day

    Bill Dodge
    Dickie Dowsett
    Terry Fenwick
    Mike Flanagan
    Gerry Francis
    (Palace player & manager of both clubs)
    Zeki Fryers
    Anthony Gardner
    Johnny Gavin
    George Graham
    (Palace player, Spurs manager)
    Andy Gray
    Bob Hewitson
    Charlie Hewitt
    Phil Holder
    Roger Hoy
    Archie Hughes
    Steffen Iversen
    Chris Jones
    John Lacy

    David Levene
    Jimmy McCormick
    Bobby Mimms
    Alan Mullery (Spurs player, Palace manager)
    Jonathan Obika
    Gary O'Reilly
    Alan Pardew

    George Payne
    Derek Possee
    Ron Reynolds (Spurs player, Palace scout)
    Wayne Routledge
    Arthur Rowe (Spurs player & manager, Palace manager & director)
    Neil Ruddock
    Charlie Rundle
    Cyril Spiers (Spurs player, Palace manager)
    Neil Sullivan
    Paul Stewart
    Perry Suckling
    (Palace player, Spurs goalkeeping coach)
    Peter Taylor
    Jack Tresadren (manager of both clubs)
    Andy Turner
    David Tuttle
    Dennis Uphill
    Terry Venables
    (also manager of both clubs)
    Ernie Walley (Spurs player, Palace caretaker manager)
    Claude Watson

     
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  2. The Mighty Thor

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    Yes they were unlucky but we are playing better now so I'm going for a Spurs win.
     
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  3. redwhiteandermblue

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    Is Lamela still out? If so, it will probably be

    Lloris
    Walker Fazio Vertonghen Rose
    Dembele/Stambouli Mason
    Townsend Eriksen Chadli
    Kane
     
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  4. The Huddlefro

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    Mason and Lamela are still out apparently and obviously Bentaleb is at ACON.

    I'd have:

    Lloris
    Walker Fazio Vertonghen Rose
    Dembele Stambouli
    Townsend Eriksen Chadli
    Kane

    Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Paulinho in the starting XI for this one, instead of Dembele.
     
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  5. Spurm

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    I'd go along with that
     
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  6. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Predicting a tough game. This is Pardew's first League game with them so I'm hoping there's no honeymoon period.

    Lloris
    Walker, Fazio, Vertonghen, Rose
    Paulinho/ Stambouli, Dembele
    Townsend, Eriksen, Chadli
    Kane

    Be interesting to see if Paulinho and Dembele do start, on paper these two probably would have been the first choice pairing and seeing as Bentaleb is away and Mason injured, they may have a chance to prove themselves to Poch.

    If we play half as good as we did against Chelsea (minus the defensive errors) then we should take 3 points.
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    Nobody picking Davies? That's different.
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    For some reason I forgot about Davies, not sure how I've done that baring in mind I wanted him in the first team since the start of the season (although Rose has performed well for the most part, so it's not been a major issue).

    I think both offer something good to the side, Rose has the speed and tenacity, Davies has more concentration and a good cross.
     
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  9. redwhiteandermblue

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    Rose has edged ahead of Davies thanks to scoring against Chelsea while being stood on his head, I think. It remains a very close competition, though, which has been good for Spurs.

    I’m tempted to start calling him Broadway Danny Rose because of the dramatic element he often brings. He mixes the great and the awful so impressively, as he did against Chelsea. How do you defend perhaps the most dangerous midfielder in the league? Try making eye contact with the official four times while trying and failing to do so...
     
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  10. perrymanlegend

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    Palace will be missing their inspirational captain Mile Jedinak who is on Socceroo duty.
    He's a big part of how they play.
     
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  11. The Huddlefro

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    Won't Palace be missing Bolasie too? He's been a threat for them all season.

    On Rose vs Davies, its tricky. Davies is more defensively solid and I think he's a very good all rounder attaching and defencing. Rose is a bit more of a live wire, you can tell he was a winger early on in his career. Over the course of the season Davies will prove to be more consistent I feel, Rose will have more outstanding games but also more ones where you notice him for being poor. Still, having two young LBs who each have plenty of merit for selection is a great headache for Pochettino to have.
     
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  12. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Just saw the team news too that Palace are without Jedinak and Bolasie, that's done us a huge favour. Their two best players in my opinion, Jedinak is good enough for a top 10 side and Bolasie on his day can cause all defences a problem, he just needs to improve his decision making.
     
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  13. redwhiteandermblue

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    The Guardian boldly predicts we’ll give Stambouli his first start at RM while Capoue will play at DM for the first time in ages. Alrighty then.

    I wouldn’t disagree. We may be best off playing Rose against the top teams and Davies against most of the rest. Rose scares everyone a bit more, both them and us.
     
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  14. No Kane No Gain

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    Everyone tends to step up a gear with a new manager though. We'll see whether Pardew gets that effect from the players but I think it'll be tough and I think it will be a big 3 points if we can win it.
     
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  15. The Huddlefro

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    Us missing Mason and Bentaleb will be very big I think. With those two in the side we look to have a real balance in the team, its up to the other players now to step up and prove that they can do what out two young academy products have been.
     
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  16. Wandering Yid

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    He won't start, but hopefully we'll see something of Yedlin from the bench.

    RWAEB must be creaming himself at the prospect of a new Yank in the team!
     
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  17. PleaseNotPoll

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    Yedlin played for an hour last night in the U21s 3-1 away win against West Ham.
    I wouldn't have thought that he'd feature.
     
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  18. Wandering Yid

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    Cheers PNP didn't know that, suspect you are right then.
     
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  19. The Huddlefro

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    I'd heard that he's being considered for the squad, but it was on Twitter so it could be bull
     
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  20. redwhiteandermblue

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    Yeah, I've got to find out where that special clinic is that HIAG goes to.
     
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