So far, we've changed most of our back room staff and added several players to our first team squad. Is this too much change? Last season we added several players to the squad and we struggled, couldn't defend and frankly, couldn't attack. Is this just more of the same? Other clubs have carefully added a couple of players in key areas.....we seem to throw as much ****e at a wall and hope some sticks. And what if we start poorly? Sack Rodgers and start all over again? More change? As far as I'm concerned, a poor start and we can probably write off the next 24-36 months while we grapple with out next change of direction. Or maybe we'll sell Ibe to the Arabs for £60m and fund the acquisition of arsenals entire under 16 squad
something has to be done though. we have seen the gend of gerrard and of course johnson and a humilating 6-1 loss to stoke where the side showed ZERO fight. things have to change. I agree that if we start poorly rodgers will get the sack. Thus far however we have only added 3 first team players clyne replaces johnson, milner replaces gerrard who was ****ed last year and firmino replaces sterling. We've not actually improved that much yet for all this change. We still need a top striker.
Agree that a striker is a must. But then it's 4 new outfield first teamers....that's a lot. Depending on which striker we sign, we might see even more change in the way we play.....new coaches, new players, new style....takes 3 years minimum.....unless you're one of very few top coaches in the world. Looks like we'll forever be in transition!
It's not necessarily the amount of change that's the issue. The issue last season was we signed dross which was intended to walk into the first team - Lovren, Lallana and Mario.
So much after Sterling empties his locker that it's pulled Rodgers trousers down and is falling out of his pockets Ba dum tish
but we had no RB.. we had no good CM (milner is ok, better than gerrard wasa the end) Sterling wanted to go. none of these changes are voluntary are the. they have to occur.
Clyne and Firmino are clear upgrades in the first team. If Rodgers plays a 3 man mid with Can holding, then Can is better than Gerrard and Milner is slightly better than Allen. Firmino is an upgrade on Lallana/Sterling.
Its not about quantaty of change, its about quality and relevance. Only time will tell but I am a lot more confident. We have got most of our business done already, meaning we ave a whole month before the season starts. That is god time for every one to settle.
You can only call it 'too much' change with hindsight, never in the present. In the present it's referred to as 'lots of' change
Too much change in certain areas doesn't matter. Defensively, things need to be consistent to see the best return but what we had last year was **** so something had to change. That change is in the coaching area. Attacking changes don't matter too much, especially if you're looking to play free flowing pacey football.
Well, we all generally agreed that the sum of all parts for various reasons didn't work last year. There were many that wanted Rodgers sacked which would have meant a lot of this level of change. Even those that didn't highlighted that a lot of last year's signings didn't appear to have worked, some dont believe they ever will so this level of change would be necessary squad wise to a smaller or greater extent. If Rodgers is to be believed last year was about beefing the quality of the squad. This year is supposed to be about adding that specific quality of individuals that wins you things. How many believe the current signings this transfer period have done that? We've all criticised what appears to be the setup so without removing Rodgers that required a big shakeup in his approach and his personnel. If none of the above Was carried out I can only assume the accusation would have been levelled that Rodgers was ignoring a big problem or problems. Only time will tell if all these new parts add up to something better than last year...
At the very least, we've improved our RB and CM positions with Clyne and Milner for Johnson and Gerrard. Our attack is still worryingly short of goals though
But improved on creativity and the depth is more appropriate as Ings and Origi suit our style better than last seasons options. Milner and Firino will add more goals from midfield, and Firmino should offer better set pieces.
So you all agree we need a striker then..... Good. Just so you know the moment I heard hip about sturridge Itoadt. He is toast. As of now imo we have two kids and a bunch of rejects. We urgently need firepower
This is it, its not how much you change, its how well you change. Frankly we need a change from last season, or is 6th and losing 6-1 good enough now? I wouldn't call last summer a big change cause most of the players were the same from the season before (bar Suarez of course), it was big addition to expand the squad and it didn't work cause the extra (new) players weren't good enough. We wasted last summer. Overall we still really need a top Striker, a top GK, LB and CB. Maybe alot of new players but our current options aren't great and without massive changes our best players will leave as patience is not a thing for modern footballers. Also Rodgers is a dead man walking anyway. He'll have to do one hell of a job by Christmas if Klopp declares himself available.
Clyne and Firmino are the biggest upgrades, and two players who will walk in the first team. We still need 2 big players to come in - I would like a RCB and ST. Can is an improvement on Gerrard (if used as the holding mid). Milner is no better than Allen IMO and I'm speaking strictly in a CM role. Milner played 20 games at CM for Villa 5 years ago.
I was about to say Milner is a upgrade on Allen and/or Gerrard until I read your second paragraph Can't wait until you eat humble pie next summer, doubt you'll admit it if (I would say when but I don't want to sound too arrogant) Milner does James does that well though.
Honestly, as much as I love being right, I can't stand to see Liverpool doing sh*t. I hope I am proven right - I like Milner and I actually bigged him when he was at City and saying he was underrated. But him playing as a CM is unknown quantity - he did play well there for 20 games but that was 5 years ago and at Villa. We've seen the likes of Delph and Charle Adam excel at such teams in similar positions. If we bought Milner as a winger and as a squad player, and at a good salary package, I would call it a shrewd signing. But it's more the fact that he's signed as a starter in a position which he has little experience in, and is now one of our top earners. He's played almost the same amount of mins as Joe Allen over the past 3 years which shows you his little impact at City (as much as some fans want to convince themselves that he was a key player). But I'll gladly hold my hands up when I'm wrong - I could not have been more wrong about Rodgers. I genuinely thought he was a talented coach but clearly proven wrong. I thought Markovic would have more of an impact last season as well.
