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Tony Pulis

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  1. Masky

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    The future of Crystal Palace manager Tony Pulis is unclear just two days before the club's opening game of the new Premier League season.
    Pulis is currently holding crisis talks with Palace owner Steve Parish.
    The friction revolves around who is responsible for which areas of the club amid simmering tension between the pair which has heightened in recent weeks.
    Pulis has been frustrated by the failure to land one of his targets Cardiff City's Etien Velikonja! <whistle>

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    Palace for relegation now?
     
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    Absolutely incredible. Malky for Palace? Cosy up with Moody again?
     
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    Looks like Moody had a hand in Pulis leaving - entire argument over transfers which Moody is in charge of.

    Mackay favorite but it seems that Tan has really dented Milky's reputation - surely he would have got a job sooner than this otherwise?
     
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    Good Luck to Malky....thoroughly deserves a proper bash at premiership.

    And at the same time lets get Pulis here. Got to be better than the puppet/muppett we've got now.
     
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    Well he was no good with money - we'll see how good he is without it.
     
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    Sorry I thought he was doing OK until.......STOP.....not again.
     
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    No not again.

    I'd rather talk about something current like how we don't want any more wingers at the club because we've got all we need without Pilks.
     
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    Bit unfair Whiffle, he was dropped firmly in the soft and smellies last season - first 3 of 4 games away to Arsenal, Man Utd and Man City. He was always on a loser after that. Better to judge him on this season. We will have a good idea by December.
     
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    Must agree Bluey. It's all about opinions on here, but that sentence did it for me.
     
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    I hope he turns out to be OK....I will always want the best for us, but lets be honest, any manager with any spine wouldn't come within a million miles of us. I said above that we should get Pulis here, but in reality there's no way he would work with Tan.

    After OGS's first three games last year, the rest of the fixtures were pretty kind to us & lets be honest a Pulis/Mick Mcarthy type manager would have pulled it off (or at least made a decent fist of it).

    Nothing against Sosljaer but he's not a premiership or even championship standard manager. The guys out of his depth. Even his post match interviews rarely go beyond 'The boys battled hard'. I honestly don't think he knows what he's doing, and more importantly neither do the players. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I really fear for us this year.
     
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    .

    We seem over-blessed on the right, but no left sided.
     
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    There's Whitts. <whistle>

    But why not? If we play Dikgacoi and Adeyemi through the middle, Pilks (assuming he signs) or Noone fron September/October on the right and Whitts on the left. No pace I know but less likely to be mugged in key areas and his best season for us was playing down the left. He can also support our left back as he did at the start of last season.

    Just a thought.
     
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    You can't judge Ole yet but imo we'd be certainties for promotion under Pulis. I don't feel that way about Ole.

    The puppet/muppet comment is harsh in the extreme. How Palace have lost the 2014 PL manager of the season and kept Moody is the maddest thing any club has ever done in the history of decision making. This makes Tan look a positively calm, calculated football expert. MM might keep them up, he probably wont. Their squad is rubbish by PL standards when being managed normally. Pulis was incredible last season and showed a level of man management and tactical awareness I hadn't credited him with. I think he knew it would be hard to motivate the same very average squad to the same levels and knew they needed real quality added.

    His win percentage was 42% he'd have finished top half on over 50pts (allowing for some draws) if they'd repeated that.

    We wont employ him right now, but the Welsh FA should be banging on his door this morning <ok>

    If he's still out of a job come Oct/Nov and we start poorly he'll cast a big shadow over Ole's position.
     
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    Yeah he pays huge wages to his manager, keeps spending millions buying whatever players the manager wants and has left us with the strongest squad on paper in the division. Tan's the worst....
     
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    Not arguing with that Stevo, not slagging him off either......just saying that, for a man with little football knowledge, maybe he interferes with the footballing side of things a little too much for any strong willed (ie decent) manager.
     
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    Do you think he's "interfering with the football side of things" now with Ole's tenure?

    Can't say I've noticed much - he's been pretty anonymous through the summer.

    Maybe now he just has confidence in someone who is looking to bring value players to the club - unless he's manipulating the muppett/puppet behind the scenes of course.
     
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  20. Stevoldinho

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    I think MM really didn't handle the situation properly. That (lack of) handshake, his politician style of playing the nice guy to the fans and press whilst him and Moody leaked info from the club constantly. Disrespecting Tan, it could only ever end one way.

    It needed sorting in a better way, I think MM thought he was untouchable because of results/promotion. As soon as results turned he was always going to need a better relationship with Tan.

    Tan was a long way from perfect, messages to dressing rooms during matches and some of the other mental stories that have come out fit too well. Some of it to has to be true.

    I think Tan will have learnt lessons from MM's time, I'm sure MM will have learnt the lesson most of us do early on in any career. The guy who owns the place is the boss. Doesn't matter if he's a head case, ****er, egotistical maniac, etc. (delete or insert others as appropriate). Go against your boss head to head and it'll only ever end one way. MM was at best naïve and at worst a ****ing idiot for thinking he could be an exception to that long written rule.

    Pulis has just proven it again, I know he's resigned but it's the bosses decisions that have led to the situation. Parish is still at Palace, Pulis isn't.
     
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