Tomorrow's game: Black and White Appeal Petition

From the gasroom, and for the attention of everyone:

"tax dodge wherever you may be
Black and White appeal petition
Fri Feb 18, 2011 21:29
82.13.157.157


Between 1:45-2:45pm on Hillbottom Road you will have the chance to sign up to the Black and White appeal petition for Steve Hayes, WDSC and Wycombe Wanderers FC to answer the following questions in black and white:

Will Wycombe Wanderers Football Club...

• continue in Steve Hayes’ ownership after any move to a new Community Stadium;

• own any part of a new Community Stadium;

• pay rent in a new Community Stadium;

• replace income lost from tenants London Wasps;

• still receive all income from advertising, sponsorship, hospitality, conferencing and catering in a new Community Stadium;

• keep receipts from the sale of Adams Park and the training ground;

• be able to repay its debts currently standing at c. £6m;

• significantly reduce the current annual losses of c. £1m ;

• receive income from related non-footballing activities at new Community Stadium and associated Sports Village;

Without this information we are not able to make an informed decision, are not able to judge whether the Club can be sustainable in a new Community Stadium and seriously doubt that moving would be in the best interests of the Club.


If you'd like to help out, please email me at [email protected] or drop by on your way to the ground."

I'll certainly be signing, and would hope most others on here do to.

 

"• keep receipts from the sale of Adams Park and the training ground;"

What is that one about?

 

i presume he means will wwfc keep the money from the sale of adams park and the training ground.

 

Ah, keep the proceeds. That makes sense. Sorry.

 

As much as i detest the thought of sitting in a soulless, three quarter empty stadium. I have to say this campaign really doesn't seem to be being very effective.
The main way fans often vent anger is on the terraces and when ever the odd "No to Booker" chant has been started, it hasn't been well supported and dies off really quickly.
I'm really not sure that WWFC fans are that bothered as the protests (right in my opinion) seem very mute

 

i agree slasher wearing black and white scarfs is hardly a threat to steve hayes and his cronies.the terrace is where the protests are more effective but like you say the no to booker chants soon die out.how the council can even contemplate building this white elephant in these desperate financial times is beyond me.

 

Quite right rocky. What amazes me even more is that back in the late 1980's when the coucil put the CPO on loakes park is that 13 sites were identified by WWFC and all 13 were turned down by the council and ultimately they knew they had to relocate WWFC so went back to one of the 13 that was originally rejected out of pure desparation to find somewhere to site WWFC as states in the regs of the CPO.

However they were then as much use as a fart in an astranauts suit throghout the whole process, then when we wanted to build office space on top of what is now the club shop at AP they said no as it would ruin the view of the surrounding area, who's view??? Its at the bottom of an industrial site.

But low and behold a small semblence of success and the council are right there asking for an open top parade round the town and a presentation on the town hall balcony.

And now the apparent cooperation with hayes to move wycombe lock stock and barrel to what is rightly described as a white elephant. It beggars belief.

 

I feel in some ways that I don't have a right to contribute to this being a long way away and unable to get to games, and I don't want to detract from what the people who are organising this highly needed protest are doing because htey're doing an excellent job...but maybe what's needed is something that's going to bring the whole issue to the attention of much bigger media, like Footy Focus or at least local TV news and Sky Sports News etc. Chanting No to booker probably won't do that even though it's not a bad thing to do. What about giving every fan a white elephatn to wave around (not a real one obviously) in the stadium?

 

when we get to the new ground maybe thats what steve hayes is going to do 5000 white elephants will help fill up the 20000 stadium.

 

I don't agree Blue Slasher. I think the campaign is growing. The numbers of scarves are increasing (only 5 left), the petition was successful and most importantly a segment was filmed for the bbc programme 'late kick off' due to be aired tonight. Fantastic publicity for the B & W appeal.

I think apathy amongst some Wycombe fans is to be expected - there will always be those who only worry about the next game, which s fine. The ones that worry me are those who continue to support the stadium despite the lack of evidence in favour of WWFC - these people usually think that the club is well run and believe that without Wasps we would be no more.

 

I'm sure I read in one of the reports that the stadium would not be owned by Steve Hayes. His Co (SDL or whatever it's called) would own the lease. If the company were to default the lease would be cancelled by the owners WDC. If that is correct, any idea where that would leave us?

 

And here's the report, really good - Steve Hayes avoiding answering questions BIG time
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/wycombe_wanderers/9403966.stm

 

Presenter to Hayes:
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"Can there be any assurances then that Wycombe Football club would keep the receipts from the sale of the stadium and from the training ground, can you offer them any assurances there?
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"(shakes head)The thing is err, you can't raise money on a stadium, even though it's an asset, which it is, you can't borrow money against it, the point is, what you really don't want is the maintenance costs".......

Think that means no. Honestly, if anyone was in doubt up until now, this latest pr disaster must be all the evidence needed to show that the new stadium will not be in our interests. A chance to give supporters info in Black and White passed up yet again. Hayes out.

 

That must have been one of those QAs where the interviewer answers the question before (Two Ronnies style). Unfortunately we didn't hear the previous question, or the answer to the next. A politician could not have done worse with that question. The presenter should have gone back with something like "sorry, I don't have the question to that answer, could you answer the question I asked?"

A pillock interviewing a pillock. Someone needs to corner him into giving a straight yes or no, possibly followed by a statement adding weight to the answer. Maybe that's asking too much.

He's not winning any friends, is he. Probably losing some, if he had any.

 

ron got your message thats nice of her to pull me a pint

 

steve hayes is bleeding our club dry i would personally throw him out of our club tomorrow and the pests,but where do we go from there he has us by the short and curlies

 

I wish I knew the answer. Some frightening figures have been posted to support the view that the move will spell the end and Hayes has not been able/willing to allay those fears with any concrete evidence. or any form of evidence. Conversely, I have not seen any plan that supports staying at Adams Park. For an onlooker like myself, choosing one of two options with no solid information to help me understand the implications, short and long term, of either is impossible.

I really can't understand Hayes. If he wants fans on side he needs to convince them that his plan is financially viable and that his commitment to WWFC is long term. He has had ample opportunity to do this so it's not difficult to understand the fans' scepticism. By alienating himself from the fans it can only lead to a bitter end. I wonder if he has reassured the players and the manager because surely they must be aware and are beginning to feel insecure. Maybe this is spilling into the dressing room and onto the pitch.

The only thing I can say in his defence is that he cannot release the proof of financial viability without releasing other information that is best kept under wraps. The worst scenario of course is that he can't release the proof because there is no proof.

 

steve hayes should wake up to the fact that without the fans wycombe wanderers would not exist any more whether at adams park or booker or wherever and on last nights programme he had the perfect chance to win supporters over via a tv interview by telling us the truth and he fluffed it big time its time he stopped insulting the legacy of frank adams and left our beloved club and take those nomad egg chasing pests with him.HAYES OUT

 

MAYBE ITS TIME THE FANS START TO CRANK UP THE PRESSURE ie protests in and outside the ground