Straight forward question...don't need to give a reason as we've all discussed it...am just gauging the spurs fans take on this as is is coming up regularly.
I love you to bits RCL, but I'm just too tired to do this all over again, man. The club has exhausted me over the past 5 years, it's quite sad. Even if we sacked him, I'd have no faith the next mug will be any better and/or receive adequate support.
I'm not going to vote, but I really don't think he's helping himself and I won't be surprised if he does get sacked. That being said, who can we replace him with that the fans will receive happily? There's not a lot out there.
If you wanted someone who the fans would love it’d be Pochettino. He’d cost a fair bit I’d imagine considering he only started with the Yanks not so long ago but that’s a crowd pleasing appointment. From a realistic perspective, I’ve said my choice would be Iraola as I think he’s Poch-lite. But that also involves a financial commitment from the club so expect Gary O’Neil if Ange gets sacked.
I've gone no as I can't see any realistic prospect to replace him before the summer, although Sean Dyche is now available.....
Edin Terzic was reportedly sounded out, if you believe Besiktas' president The obvious thing to note is he plays a 433, though there's noticeable differences to Ange's system - Wingers and FBs overlap on the wings, rather than FBs cutting inside - His midfield is a 6 and two 8s, rather than two hybrid 8s and a 10 - His defence with asymmetrical FBs like Poch was trying to implement in 2019, i.e. Porro plays RB and Davies plays LB - The buildup is more central However, that small outline underlines three things we need to accept to make his system work: 1.) We definitely would need to sign a DM 2.) Another CM is likely needed, though with Bentancur, Sarr, Bergvall and Bissouma we may be able to fudge our way to playing two No8s 3.) Gray would have to play RB if Udogie starts And that's before addressing the point that Terzic is basically Angeball: German Style, making it a more sanitised form of chaos
Yes. The results alone show he’s not even close to doing enough to earn more time and backing. Levy took a huge risk on him and it’s just not worked out at all.
Ready made, genuinely good players, who can make an instant impact. It's what I've been saying since the summer, we needed 3-4 Solanke type signings, I wasn't even hugely sold on Solanke but we needed 3-4 more of equal/ better quality to actually raise our level. Two weeks into January we're still waiting for more of his ilk. Go and get Mbuemo, go and get Douglas Luiz, go and get someone else of that calibre and watch us turn losses into draws or wins and draws into wins.
Bringing back Poch would be one hell of a mistake Putting aside the old adage of a manager should never go back, Poch's looked a shadow of what he was for us in his last few jobs, which can in part be blamed on taking jobs with some of world football's most dysfunctional clubs in PSG and Chelsea, but the fact he wound up at the USTeenageMutantNinjaTurtles instead of finding a plum job in Spain, Germany or Italy does tell its own story
I thought he did well at Chelsea after a bit of a dodgy start, to be fair. Got them going in the right direction and his replacement seems to have run out of steam in recent games. I don't see him leaving his current job though, so it's not really an issue.
Same thing Jose and Conte needed to be given to succeed. Same thing most managers, even Poch to a greater extent than we care to admit, need to succeed: Better players than most of your opposition. A bit of luck or a purple patch can elevate you above one maybe two teams who are naturally better than you, but when 5-6 squads are obviously better than you and another 3-4 aren't far off, you're screwed.
Poch's time at Chelsea was nowhere near as bad as I think some claim it was. In the second half of the season they were one of the form teams in the league, only lost once in like the last fifteen games. It took a while for him to drill his methods into the players but once he did they went on a great run. Got to a cup final too. It was quite similar to our first season under him in fact, we stuck by him and reaped the rewards, they stupidly binned him. If the club wants to avoid spending out on the players Postecoglou needs then give this bunch to Poch and I'm certain he'd finish with about 7-10 more points than what Postecoglou will manage.
He’s not the first manager to play a high risk game, gambling on the team’s strengths outweighing its weaknesses. Think Keegan at Newcastle, for example. But it relies on having your best players available and in form. Otherwise, the strategy falls apart very quickly. Weaknesses can be exposed very quickly and easily. He’s massively underachieving so it would be no surprise if he was sacked, but change is pointless unless the club is prepared to tolerate a period of transition/rebuilding, which probably means not being in the CL for a while and not competing for trophies (realistically). Few teams succeed by constantly changing managers - Spurs are falling within that category based on the number of managers appointed in the last few years.
I don't think that analysis is correct. The worse you are, the more risk you should take because the rewards are asymmetric. That's unless you expect to finish between 14th and 17th when you need to maximise the chances of not being relegated which means taking very little risk.
Unfortunately we can't afford to do that starting from here. That's why I am very patient with Ange. If we play low risk football we would likely end up about 6th or 7th and lose to the first decent team we drew in the cups. The current strategy gives us a much better chance of winning a cup without really changing our league position materially (in the sense that 15th instead of 7th makes little difference).
To give an illustration, if you are the 20th best team in the PL then playing straight down the middle will get you relegated for sure. What you need to do is to change half your draws to wins and half to losses as that gets you more points. That means taking more risk.
Players have missed a combined 110+ games for Spurs already this season, with 7 missing 10 or more. There’s things I would like Ange to do differently with the team but I think most managers would have struggled with the hand he’s been dealt this season.
I'd say the chances of a 15th-place finish leading to relegation are greater than the chances of winning one trophy leading to another. So while I'd probably take 15th and a trophy this season, I'd go into next season extremely worried.
