Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

I've just come back on here for some respite after arguing with mentalists on Facebook. I've been on here for 10 years and never thought that this is where the sensible people might be. I have mixed emotions.

 

You were right, it isn't.

 

No more Tiers.*


*Shamelessly stolen from @FLG in a blatant attempt to get the credit myself.

https://www.not606.com/threads/tier...-tier-5-for-now.387577/page-144#post-14511884

 

It's exactly 12 months since medics were summoned to what became the first confirmed case of Covid-19 in the UK.

On the evening of 29 January, two paramedics from the Yorkshire Ambulance Service were called to the 196-room Staycity apartment-hotel in Paragon Street, York. Dressed in white hazmat suits, they told reception staff they were responding to a potential coronavirus case, before heading to a first-floor room.

Unbeknownst to staff at Staycity, paramedics left the hotel with the family about 20 minutes after arriving, slipping out of a fire exit to the waiting ambulance. From Paragon Street, they were taken to the regional infectious diseases unit at Castle Hill Hospital, near Hull.

Thirty miles away, Nick Easom, Anda Samson and Patrick Lillie - all specialists in infectious diseases - had been at a retirement dinner when they were suddenly called back.

Rather than feeling apprehensive, Dr Easom recalls some "excitement" at the possibility of seeing the UK's first suspected coronavirus cases. He had to send a colleague to buy him an electric razor, allowing him to trim his beard to ensure his personal protective equipment would fit properly.

Just days earlier, he and his colleagues had agreed that a handful of cases in the UK was to be expected, but it would be "slightly unusual if we saw any in Hull". "We thought in all likelihood we would get them in and test them and it would be a dry run to make sure all our processes were working well," he says. The next day, the mother and son tested positive for coronavirus - the first people to do so in the UK.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-55622386

 

Seems the EU is in panic about vaccine availability and is demanding AZ factories in the UK supply them before the UK. But AZ are supplying on a first come first served basis and we had orders in 3 months ago. Funny that Germany hadn't sanctioned the AZ vaccine until today (think thats right). As someone said on YOU TUBE comments the Europeans never did learn how to queue.

 

Sounds like they threw the towel in.

 

Vaccination is already easing Britain’s Covid epidemic with early data showing it is definitely reducing cases.

Research due to be published within days will provide real-world evidence that Britons are being protected, including suggestions that the effect is still building a month after one dose, said Anthony Harnden, deputy chairman of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI).

With fears about an EU export ban on vaccines, Professor Harnden said plans were in place for people to be able to mix and match vaccines if second doses of the Pfizer jab were unavailable.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-of-virus-already-early-study-shows-lbwwgsvrh

 

Didn’t they say no to mix and matching jabs? It sounds absolutely ridiculous it to me if they work in completely different ways.

 

Those of us last year saying lockdowns and the various restrictions will cause as many deaths as covid itself, even Sage and cival servants are now saying similar

 

Read far enough down and it also says: "As shockingly high as the death toll from the unintended consequences of the lockdown is, many more people would have died had restaurants, pubs, schools and non-essential shops not been shut. A further 97,000 deaths would have been added this winter alone."

 

It was only ever going to be a lose lose situation...

 

How would they get that evidence?

 

Of course it's all guesswork. But hopefully educated guesswork.

 

Following infected people like you with tiny tiny drones and satellite cameras floating round on Elon Musk’s big sky flotilla and calculating how many people you might have rubbed up against and shared bodily fluids with so spreading your germs to if you’d not been safely locked away.

Basically all UK calculations are based on working out what you do and multiplying it
by 66 million.

 

Not if Neil Ferguson has done the modelling and he's one of the main Sage protagonist.

 

God almighty, if I never see Ferguson spouting his guesses again, it'll be too soon. I really hope the other SAGErs are embarrassed by him.

 

The same Neil Ferguson who hasnt been involved with Sage since May last year ?

The same one who predicted 250000 deaths if we DIDNT lockdown when he was at Sage ?

The same Neil Ferguson who had to quit Sage due to breaking lockdown rules after he advised lockdown was the only way at the time ?

Like it was said above ... all guesswork , educated guesswork hopefully but guesswork all the same , it is what it is with regards to where we are and where we are going , we are just going to have to put up with it , and hope that the vaccine finishes the race sooner rather than later ... It's the only way out