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Thursday 12th July Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Black Caviar, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Redemption time is upon us, Ahern 11/2 makes it to the track for the 3rd time, and fireworks are duly expected from this punter.

    get on

    thats why they call me Boris Fenster
     
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  2. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    What you think of Harris Tweed winning tomorrow boris? Or anyone? Surely he iwll like the spring in the ground and fancy him to turn the tables on Red Cadeaux tomorrow, (im not being biased as I always back him when he runs, one of my fav flat horses! :D)
     
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  3. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Must have a good chance Woolcombe, likes the track and conditions are fine for him, not my kind of race but I think Fiorente looks a decent bet at 14/1.
     
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  4. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Newmarket
    1.20 Valiant 5/2
    1.50 Ahern 11/2
    2.25 Nabucco 5/1
    3.00 Fiorente 14/1

    Leopardstown
    7.25 Our Connor 4/1
     
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  5. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    Intresting picks there boris! <ok> am on Ahern! so cheers for that <cheers>
     
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    <laugh>Considering changing my Login name from Niksboy to Sticksbitch, but not too sure how Nikki would feel about it. (although she benefits greatly from these brilliant tips). One day I'll have some decent info to offer some payback. <laugh><laugh>
     
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    1.20 Newmarket - REWARDED 9/2

    1.50 Newmarket - GALE FORCE TEN 100/30 & LEWISHAM E.W 66/1

    3.00 Newmarket - MODUN 11/1

    3.35 Newmarket -HASANAN 12/1 (Forecast)
     
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  8. woolcombe-folly007

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    3.00 - Harris Tweed (NAP)

    Have been considering this race and thought I cant go against him, although he has come up short on all four attempts at this level but this contest doesn't appear to be as strong as it could be, he likes the track. He won the John Porter Stakes on his return back in April, Haggas then stepped him up to a mile and six furlongs at york, where he and Red Cadeaux raced off level weights.
    He set out to make all the running but merely succeeded in teeing it up for Red Cadeaux, who swamped him over a furlong out while Harris Tweed could only plug on.
    Eventually beaten just under three lengths, Harris Tweed would probably have preferred more cut that day, which will most likely get at this track as mixed spell of wet weather continues.
    This time he has a handy 3lb pull with Red Cadeaux this time and having shown he can run well off a break more than once, my money will be on him

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  9. niksboy

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    Ok Boris, Ahern it is to get the day off to a flyer.
     
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    Modun in that race for me <ok>
     
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    I really like NABUCCO 2.25 Nkt 9-2. The form of his Windsor maiden had a very nice boost with the runner up, GUARANTEE, hosing up at the same venue on Monday night. I think the handicapper has let him off quite lightly and think he will prove a good deal better than his initial rating!
     
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    Cheers, hoping it will be as nice as my returns on him :D
     
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    1.20- Newmarket- SHANTRAM 13/8

    1.50- Newmarket- AHERN 5/1

    2.25- Newmarket- NABUCCO 9/2

    3.00- Newmarket- HARRIS TWEED 11/4
     
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    2.25 Sticko
     
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    cheers ROTO
     
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  17. YouCanCallMeJeff

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    Was about to mention Hasanan, alot will be made of Fleeting Smiles form behind Newfangled but I think it will go up at too short a price for a 20 runner field. Hasanan has good form from both starts at an EW price
     
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    3.25 Warwick Masked Dance 8/1 represents my NAP tomorrow. Rather sweet on this ones chances and write up to come later.
     
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    Harris Tweed is one of my least favourite flat horses (sorry woolcombe) think he is massively overrated! Still think it was unbelievable that he was favourite for the ormonde at chester last year against st nicholas abbey who duly put him in his place! Red Cadeaux all day long in that race for me!
     
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    1.20 Newmarket: REWARDED 9/2

    Showed some really smart form last season as a 2YO and has shaped much, much better than form figures suggest this time around. Being by Motivator she strikes me as one to improve up in trip and 10f has looked on the sharp side late. I think she is the value call against two short, talented and unexposed favourites in Shantaram and Valiant. She might just be able to travel all over them- but that is when the stamina questions wll be answered.

    1.50 Newmarket: SMOOTHTALKINRASCAL 14/1 e.w

    I think this race is a lot, lot closer than the market suggests and I think that perhaps the form of the Coventry and the Norfolk might be a touch overrated at the moment. Cristoforo Columbo wasturned over at short odds after Royal Ascot remember and I think we ought to be looking for improvers up in trip here. I still think Sir Prancealot is better over 5f and his racing style suggests it. As well as Gale Force Ten ran on at Ascot, the winner hung all over the place yet still won, so I'm inclined for now to say that form is weaker than would normally be the case for that race. Therefore I am more interested in the Windsor Forest form- ALHEBAYAB was 2nd that day and kept on really well from the front but a yard in form at the moment as is expected at this time of year from one that improves their horses run by run is that of Brian Meehan, hence SMOOTHTALKINRASCAL, who shaped with bundles of promise when a never nearer 3L 7th at Royal Ascot in the same race, might be the one to improve beyond them up in trip today.

    3.00 HARRIS TWEED is always a tough nut to crack in these conditions because he wil force you to answer stamina questions. However FIORENTE is a horse who has been given time to come to himself this season in good company and will be cherry ripe today. He was 13L behind Sea Moon last time out but that is no real surprise, and his reappearance can be forgiven because he certainly needed that. You would just think that at his best he might just stay well enough in the softish conditions (stayed on v.well behind Nathaniel at Ascot last year) and might get home better than some of the principles.



    3.35 Newmarket: SUPERNOVA HEIGHTS 16/1 e.w I have been intrigued to see this filly make her debut since I saw it entered up at another meeting some time ago. Meehan puts her in with some very nice types here and Fallon is booked up for the first time run (as he was scheduled to on the intended debut before the ground concerns). Meehan said in an interview that like most of his youngsters, she will learn a lot from debut but that they would not be surprised if this one did manage to bold showing first time up, and that is significant I feel. I think this is one of the best bred horses he has sent out all year and I wonder if it might turn out to be his best filly- he has been short of good fillies so far this year and he usually has one somewhere (think THEYSENS THEORY/SHUMOOS etc). Nice value price to have a speculative couple of pennies on e/w.

    Placepot:

    REWARDED/VALIANT

    SIR PRANCEALOT

    NABUCCO/PILGRIMS REST

    JAKKALBERRY/FIORENTE

    CERTIFY/TEQUILA SUNRISE/SUPERNOVA HEIGHTS

    MUKHADRAM/SOVEREIGN DEBT
     
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