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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Eireleeds1, Jan 18, 2014.

  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Realise this isn't everyone's cup of tea, some don't want to think anything is wrong behind the scenes but this gives a good indication just how the bankers are affecting McDs job at the moment
    Who's club is it anyway?
    You can hear that question bouncing off the walls on those uncomfortable days when a buyer waits to buy, a seller waits to sell and the balance of authority is open to debate.

    Leeds United experienced this in the month before Ken Bates sold his shares to GFH Capital. Around that time he decided that Neil Warnock deserved the sack. The terms of his unfinalised agreement with GFH Capital said Warnock must remain as manager. So Warnock did, despite the fact that Bates – a single-minded animal – held a 72.85 per cent stake and, technically speaking, the casting vote.

    Takeovers create tension and it’s generally assumed that delays in completion cause problems for those caught in the middle, managers most of all. Now we have proof that they do. Ashley Barnes will go down in Brian McDermott’s book as the player who was lost to internal dispute and the volatility of a club who are stuck between owners.

    On Thursday of last week Barnes expected to have two clubs to choose between. Burnley agreed terms with Brighton and took the striker north for a medical but Barnes had essentially been told that he would receive a firm offer from Leeds too. By Friday morning it was apparent to him that United were not delivering on their promise so Burnley got their signing. McDermott got no more than a strange story of arguments above his head.

    The transfer was vetoed by Gulf Finance House, the parent company of GFH Capital and the bank which has been selling a 75 per cent share in Leeds to a British consortium for a while. Several sources confirmed to the YEP that Sport Capital, the group who intend to buy United, offered to pay an immediate fee of £500,000 for Barnes in anticipation of their buy-out. Angry discussions raged as senior staff at Gulf Finance House in Bahrain said no.

    There is no lucid explanation for why the bank said no. The best anyone can offer is that GFH thought Barnes was “not a signing Leeds should be making”, presumably on account of their extensive scouting of his years at Brighton. That computes in a sense since no objection was made to the signings of Cameron Stewart and Jimmy Kebe last week, players whose wages must be as steep as Barnes’. But in McDermott’s eyes it was unhelpful interference. He is simply too professional to say so.

    This is not the first time that a manager of Leeds has had a signing kiboshed and not by a long way. Warnock tried desperately to sign Joel Ward from Portsmouth in 2012 but could not persuade Leeds to stump up £400,000. The difference on that occasion was that United and Bates claimed they did not have the money to fund the deal. Last week, the cash for Barnes was seemingly there to be spent. Leeds as a club were willing to spend it. They lacked only the authority.

    Sport Capital – a consortium which includes United managing director David Haigh and Andrew Flowers, the MD of Enterprise Insurance – say they have made funds available for the January window regardless of the fact that their takeover is incomplete. McDermott had enough money to sign Stewart and Kebe. Nonetheless, those funds are of limited use if a signing like Barnes depends on GFH’s mood and permission. McDermott’s job is to pick the players. GFH was not even being asked to pay for him.

    It’s been apparent for some time that investment in United from Bahrain is reducing significantly. The payments made to Leeds by Haigh in October and November offered funding to a club who were getting little from elsewhere. But GFH is still the majority stake holder at Elland Road. The club is theirs to run. That can only change when the bank’s status in the boardoom changes too.
    From this mornings yep
    There is a strong smell of politics about so much of what has happened this week. And confusion too. Confusion about why a buy-out which has been portrayed as a done deal for a month-and-a-half allowed the mess over Barnes to develop.

    The Football League never comments on takeover approval but it is blindingly obvious that the governing body is not about to object to this deal. The delay is no longer anything to do with them. Sport Capital say they have funds in place and GFH wants rid of a majority stake. On the evidence of the Barnes transfer, it would do Leeds good to rid themselves of GFH’s outright command.

    Already we are 13 days out from the transfer deadline and deep into a month which has been hard enough without political posturing. So whoever is holding this up, get a grip and get it done. For the sake of your manager and the club.
     
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  2. 666 & Elmo

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    I know what you are saying, and I know what the YEP is saying, but owners always have a final say, and there is always the possibility that the guy who is ultimately at the top will obstruct somethign that others say they want.

    Haigh will be at the beck and call of others above him who hold the purse strings whoever the owner is, and he will need to justify everything.

    I'm not too worried. And I'm not going to use the "for the sake of your manager and the club" nor demand that things must be done immediately. We have had enough of short-term fixes and demands, what we need is long-term stibilkity. If that comes mainly because the new owners are going to take their time, then so be it.

    The club must look at things long-term, players and managers come and go, this just seems to be impatience. I nthe short-term, anyone can claim it has done irreparable damage to the club, but in reality, it does no such thing.
     
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  3. xbpod

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    Perhaps it's nothing more than they did not rate Barnes. His strike rate is Ok but nothing special, even in league 1, and he has proved to be a bit of a loose cannon in the past. Too much of a risk?
     
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    I'm in agreement with Eire on this, as the 'formality' should have been done before Xmas, but the FL found something and sent it back. Haigh got the new stuff back to FL just before Xmas but knew it would be the new year before it got ratified. We're now 3-weeks into post Xmas and the stuff still hasn't been done. I suspect that Haigh's posturing has upset a few and the legals are still not ratified. For me the only difference between Bates PR and Haigh's PR is that haigh paints nice pictures but the reality is still the same.

    I want BMcD to win out and be a huge success, but I'm afraid something has gone bad at ER, and I don't know if its because of behind the scenes struggles or he's just lost the confidence of his team. Either way we are not having a good time
     
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  5. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Not the case as the people in Bahrain know nothing about football and wouldn't recognise a striker if one fell on them. They're bankers and accountants who barely understand finance
     
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    Phil Hay is pathetic ... none of us felt that Barnes was worth a fee with him being out of contract soon, good luck to Burnley for paying £750k ... why let Bates sack Warnock and replace him with 1) Steve Kean 2) Roy Keane 3) Ronald McDonald ... GFH were right to get the takeover done and then replace Warnock with THEIR man ... rubbish reporting by a Grade F hack ... fcuk off Hay, we supporters will stick together and try and help McD and the players through this


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    Sweeping statement, you must be on very good personal terms to know them so well. You dont need to know much about football to see the deal for Barnes would have been poor business for the club.
     
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    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Obviously McD knows nothing either so as he wanted him. Thats worrying
     
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    Got to agree Barnes would not have been a good signing in my opinion
     
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    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Two words.

    Haigh ****er
     
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  11. BillysStatue

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    Fcuk me, why do people still have a dig at Haigh? It was GFH who blocked the move, not Haigh ... listen to what McDermott says, "most important thing right now is to get the sale of the club over the line, the people taking over are right for this club and only want to do good for Leeds United" ... he knows it was GFH who got in the way, so lay off Haigh and let him get on with rebuilding our club


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    When did ****er tell us the TO would be done by? Was it? Is it now? Is time running out this window? Has he played the populist card? Did he lie to us? All that's missing is calling us morons, and that's not far away. Tory ****er.
     
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    Just noticed under your name and above the points bar, your status has changed to "MIGHTY'S lap dog" guessing it has something to do with the bone
     
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    Here boy "SIT"

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