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This man is under the cosh!

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  1. Not Faurlin Around

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    1242 FOOTBALL: QPR manager Neil Warnock today launched a scathing attack on the Football Association's disciplinary commission branding the decision to uphold Joey Barton's red card "farcical" and "scandalous".

    This is the sign of a man that is facing the boot, it looks as though he could go "kicking and screaming". I wonder if TF will give him the money or is that the reason these so called DONE deals haven't taken place?

    Why hasn't he put it to bed and then concentrated on all that is needed, and there is an awful lot thats needed!
     
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  2. Chair Nob'll Fallout

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    Warnock critical of Commission
    R's boss hits out after Barton loses appeal for wrong dismissal

    QPR manager Neil Warnock has launched a scathing attack after an Independent Regulatory Commission dismissed Joey Barton's claim of wrongful dismissal.

    Barton was given a red card by referee Neil Swarbrick in Monday's 2-1 home defeat by Norwich when the Rs were leading through the ex-Newcastle midfielder's goal.

    The officials deemed Barton to have head-butted Bradley Johnson at Loftus Road, however, replays indicated little movement of the head after he confronted the Norwich man.

    Warnock was fuming at the time and his fury failed to be dampened after the club's appeal against the sending off was dismissed, leaving the midfielder to see out a three-match ban.

    Rangers' boss did not see Clint Dempsey sent from the field of play for a similar offence against Liverpool's Craig Bellamy while he was surprised Frank Lampard was booked for his challenge on Adam Hammill when Wolves' Nenad Milijas was ordered off against Arsenal.

    Farcical
    "Am I surprised that Frank Lampard commits and horrendous challenge and Peter Walton gives him a yellow card? If that would have been Joey Barton, Karl Henry or any Tom, Dick and Harry would that have been a yellow or red card?"

    "I'm not surprised by it. It is difficult to accept when you see what Dempsey did in comparison with Joey Barton, it's farcical isn't it," commented Warnock. "For me, I think this is the worst case I've ever seen.

    "Whenever you see something happen on the field of play that warrants a red card, if the linesman sees that offence every time that linesman stands still and flags and flags and flags until the referee goes towards him, tells him what he's seen and the lad's sent off.

    "This linesman carried on and on and on and would not have stopped if Joey Barton had got the ball, gone past a few people and whacked it in the far post. We would have been 2-0 up.

    "I find it absolutely impossible. I know they've got to look after themselves. I feel really let down as a manager, as a club that three invisible people can look at that incident and not look at the linesman and take into consideration. If he did see what he saw why did he not flag immediately and keep his flag up?

    "When you get people like Graham Poll, not my biggest fan, supporting what I'm saying and people like Dermot Gallagher and the three people on the commission go against that, I just think it's scandalous.

    "But I'm not surprised. Am I surprised that Frank Lampard commits an horrendous challenge and Peter Walton gives him a yellow card? If that would have been Joey Barton, Karl Henry or any Tom, Dick and Harry would that have been a yellow or red card? They would have been lynching them.

    Comparison
    "At the moment I don't see where the disciplinary commission are going. Mick McCarthy a couple of weeks ago the red card (Milijas) received in comparison with Lampard is like taking the baby for a walk. Ridiculous.

    "I just think (referees) get influenced. If you look at Grant Holt immediately after he is in the linesman's ear straight away, before he's flagged telling him what to do. Ironically enough once the red card is shown you see Holt saying "No you can't send him off!". I think that's fantastic.

    "If they are influenced then they are influenced, but I just think by the laws of the game you can't tell me another violent conduct offence that a linesman has seen where he's not flagged immediately. I don't think there's ever been one. I don't think there will ever be one.

    "There's not even a report from the linesman who's seen this alleged offence that goes into the commission. All there is are two lines from the referee saying his linesman told him he put his head forward. It's just absolutely farcical I think. I'm so disgusted by it."

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7412182/
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    As i said "This man is under the cosh"
     
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    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    Neil is right, it's farcical - "intent" is not a red card. If it was there would n't be many players left on any pitch by halftime.
     
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    don't you think he would have come out and had a rant regardless of league position?
     
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    He's right it is farcical,wether he's under pressure or not,it was a ****e decision by a man who has obviously not played football,they only becone assistant referee's because they were ****e a sports.
     
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  7. Renault Ranger

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    It was his first press conference since the decision so of course he would be asked his opinion on the matter. I think we know by now when youask NW for his opinion that he will give it to you. If he had not said anything on the matter then would he be accused of ignoring the matter etc.

    In my opinion every manager is under the cosh to get results, I mean look at the Man Ure fans saying Sir Alex needs to go....
     
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  8. Ninj

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    Lampard's only gettinga yellow is a disgrace. However, in that game Ashley Cole should also have been sent off -as he should have done in the game at Loftus Rd.

    Bottom line, there is no consistancy with the refs only that they all interpret the rules and regulations differently. I would hae thought then when an ex ref such as Graham Poll calls the decision to send off Barton wrong, then why aren't his views taken into consideration. The thing with Joey Barton is that he doesn't just come with baggage - its more like suitcases and I am disappointed he chose to get involved when he had caused Norwich more problems by scoring a goal. Joey for fooks sake prove you are the England player you claim to be by staying on the pitch and leading us to survival.
     
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  9. Not Faurlin Around

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    I hate to quote from other boards but we have enough sh*t of our own to worry about, put it to bed and move on!
    Warnock is reacting in this manor cos he is the player that he brought to the club on over 90k a week and he made captain and hasn't really had the impact he was expecting, Barton was actually in the process of having his most productive game on Monday and then got involved with a player of limited ability,he could have ruined Johnson over 90 mins!but instead he cost QPR 3 points, cost himself 3 games and could cost NW his Job?
     
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    Well said Ninj, 100% agree. <applause>
     
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  11. ColdharbourR

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    I don't think this interview makes it sound like he's under the cosh. He is well within his rights to be angry at the whole episode and makes some very valid points. Just because he was interviewed about the situation by Sky Sports doesn't mean he's spending all day talking about it to anyone who will listen. That would have taken 5 minutes out of his day. This is how the press works, someone asks him what he thought of the decision, he gives an answer and suddenly he has 'launched a scathing attack' as if he's spent a week writing a thesis on the subject.

    I can't see how anyone could see the FA's decision to be anything but 'farcical' and 'scandilous' and I would worry about Neil if he hadn't had a rant!

    Calm down Not Faurlin and give NW a break!
     
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  12. superHusky1

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    Nah, not when you watch the press conference; yes he was seething, but he was just venting his spleen.
     
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    Well said Neil, I for one was seething after the first half the ref put in, it wasn't just the sending off but a string of poor decisions all going in Norwich's favour and this could be the lost 3 points that cost us our place in this division, it was an ideal fixture to turn it around and we were mugged by a bunch of cheating country folk.
     
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  14. Not Faurlin Around

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    Coldharbour: What are you on? Give NW a break are you his love child?
    Our form is the worst in the league at the moment and he is having a full blown row with the FA, concentrate on the things that he can control, although i am begining to wonder if he can?
     
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    The man is under the cosh. Bet no one is singing 'there's only one Neil warnock' anymore. The only reason our hopes rest on this transfer window is because he failed to get the best out of the players he signed in the last one.
     
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    I would suggest that when NW arrived down the bush 70% of our fans were, what shall i say " not over enthused ". Yes he done a fantastic job to get us up and it was a monumental effort by all. But just like a couple of the players that were part of that achievement and are now ploughing their trade at a lower level, i wonder whether NW should be doing the same?
    I wonder if the same 70% are "not over enthused" now?
     
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  17. TheLoneRanger

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    Faurlin around, are you a blackburn fan in disguise?
     
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    Just saying what others seem frightened to say, are you ok with the current situation then Lone Ranger?
     
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    Of course no one's happy with where we are, but to be honest it is a realistic position for us considering how things turned out after we were promoted. I just don't blame Warnock!

    No money before the season started, he had to rush buy before the transfer deadline and unfortunately there are only one or two players who are playing to their abilities. None of which are his fault.

    Some moan about his tactics and formation. Sometimes he goes for the 4-4-1 formation that got us promoted, playing Taarabt in the hole but Adel hasn't been up to it. So he goes 4-4-2 and plays Boothroyd up front with HH, but he hasn't played anywhere near his potential and has only scored 2 goals. DJ has been injured or ill since the start of the season, which leaves us with Ageyman and Hulse. Do you want Warnock to play them??

    Would we be in this position if Fernandes had been in charge from the time we were promoted, given time to buy the players Warnock wanted instead of picking up who was available and with a full pre-season to work on the team?? I doubt it. So the only people we should be blaming are the goons who sabotaged our season before it even started.

    If we get relegated it will be tragic and painful, but it certainly wont be the end of the world and it will give us the chance to do it the right way. But if the fans start having a go at Warnock now then it will make relegation all the more likely.
     
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  20. GoldhawkRoad

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    Good post - the QPR board must be patient and review the position in the middle of Feb IMO.

    May be we came up a year too early - time will tell
     
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