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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by smidgen, Jun 18, 2011.

  1. smidgen

    smidgen Active Member

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    A bit of a worrying article:

    http://www.thisishullandeastriding....acks-council/story-12794147-detail/story.html

    All of us are waiting for movement with regard to the Sports Village. However, there now seems to be developing a bit of a rift/difference of opinion between Steve Brady/Hull Council and Mr. Allam.

    I just hope it gets sorted out, as I feel that the Village scheme would be a great thing to happen. But I'd much rather it was around the KC, rather than miles to the west of Hull.
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I dont care that the end product of what Mr Allam wants is probably best for the club, he is without doubt going about this in the wrong way. It frankly makes me angry and worried that our owners can behave in this manner on such an important issue.

    How can Allam criticise a lack of progress when he has yet to make a direct offer to the council? That's lke a buyer complaining to the vendor about a deal to buy their house not going through when they havent even made an offer.

    For once, the council and Cllr Brady in particular, are behaving entirely correctly and I applaud them for it. In the meantime I do genuinley worry about Mr Allam's agenda.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    I think Assem is under the impression that what he's offering is so good for the city, that the city should be chasing him, rather than the other way round.

    I think it's fair enough that he tried to get across what he wanted to do via the HDM, but he can hardly continue to negotiate via the HDM, it's becoming counter productive.
     
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  4. miff33

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    He probably sees us as his toy to play with as he likes, personally as long as the cub are performing in the league and we are being given enough funds for transfers then im happy.
     
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  5. The B&S Fanclub

    The B&S Fanclub Well-Known Member

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    Wherever and whenever a Labour administration get in there are usually complications.....expect nothing else! Labour in this city tend to reminisce about the "good'ole days" and are full of ...."When I was a lad. It was great on the fish dock"…. types. They are not proactive about the future......just reactive. I fear that the plans for the Sports Village at the KC will die and the future of City will die with them.
     
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  6. Farsley Tiger

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    I think what the Allam's have done for the club is fantastic, but Assem has surprised me with the way he has conducted himself on this issue. The constant public criticism of another party that you are aiming to agree a transaction with is slightly bizarre.

    How exactly does he think this is going to assist the situation? Surely a man of his experience must know that a transaction such as this, especially one involving a public body, will take many months to be finalised even if things go relatively smoothly. Also, with Brady and his bunch with opinion polls and re-election to think about, being seen to be bullied by someone like Assem is not an option for them.

    All in all, I think Assem needs to shut up about this publicly for a while now before he starts to lose support. If he starts to piss people off, they could vote against the scheme in any referendum just because they don't approve of his attitude, which would be a real shame as the scheme looks fantastic and would clearly benefit the city.

    Time to get working behind the scenes and then come back to the press once there is actually something to report.
     
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  7. John. Walkington.

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    Assem made the statement at a business meeting/talk that the Daily Fail reported about on the 9th.
    Nothing new has been said from him since.

    So this is either political posturing by Brady or mud raking by the Daily Fail.

    Brady is saying that he wants to see extra facilities in the city - is he thinking of getting the rate payers to fund it? <laugh>

    Just get a move on Brady and sell the stadium.
     
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  8. StrovolosTiger

    StrovolosTiger Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. I think Assem Allam is going about this the wrong way. He is dealing with politicians, not businessmen. They are not interested in making money, they are interested in saving face, something that will not be achieveable by public criticism. Assem says it is a gift to the city, but in truth it isn't. It's a gift to the city that he will own.

    Don't get me wrong I will be eternally grateful to the Allams for what they have done and think what they propose will be great for everyone. But I think, winding up people who are not under any kind of financial pressure and who believe non-action much safer than sticking your head out over the parapet, will not work. That is a concern for me because whilst I cannot believe the move to Melton is anything other than a red herring, I could be wrong, and I don't think it is in the Club's best interest to move from their current home.
     
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  9. smidgen

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    Yeah - agree with much of what you say: Brady should quit with the "referendum" idea. The idea that the whole city (voting) population should express their opinion, when Brady and co. were ELECTED to take decisions on behalf of that same constituency, just doesn't look right to me. No-one was asked to vote on using KC share sale monies to build the stadium. (Yes - I do think it was a good idea).

    But Assem Allam should also quit with his posturing - it looks as if he is trying to bulldoze the council into rolling over. As you say, it could well backfire!
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    Erm.....so do I. I just suggested what I thought he was thinking and I agree that negotiating through the media isn't clever.
     
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  11. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    To be honest I reckon that AP will have put the Allams up to this. It sounds like one of his dirty tricks that causes more bad then good.
     
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  12. Hutch_Tiger

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    More chess moves, in what will a be a drawn out saga in agreeing a price for the KC.

    Be glad when we know either way to be honest.

    Would prefer the sports village and the KC to be improved, can only be good for Hull, but don't mind the move to Melton if it makes us a bigger club ie Top class Training facilities, Hotel, etc etc

    Would the Hotel count as an asset of Hull city football club? and would the income from it be classed as Hull Citys , i'm asking this with that Fifa fair play rule in mind?

    Also has there been any mention of a youth academy?
     
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  13. tigercity

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    There's always going to be a risk of going to the local rag when he should be doing his negotiations behind closed doors. It's clear that the reason is to gee up the local population so some pressure is put on the Council to sell. As City fans we'll all want this as an end result.

    Let's not kid ourselves, no-one ever invested a stack of cash just as a "gift", bailing out the Tigers can be seen as that but he'd like to offset his spending with a successful sports village, otherwise you end up making a big loss.

    In conclusion it's posturing as many have already said.
     
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  14. StrovolosTiger

    StrovolosTiger Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, just scan read the post. Read it properly now.

    :emoticon-0111-blush
     
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  15. tigercity

    tigercity Well-Known Member

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    in addition, there's nothing "ominous" or "worrying" about this article, in fact it comes over in a positive light and I'm sure at the end of the day, the two parties will hash out a deal as it's something they both want.
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    I'll let you off. :emoticon-0110-tongu
     
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  17. BernsteinTiger

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    I thought that. This doesn't seem to be an ominous article, it finally seems like the wheels are finally turning. Brady has admitted that he would support and improvement in the Sporting Facilities of Hull. He obviously doesn't have the Budget for this, so that pretty much has to come through a plan such as the one the Allams are proposing. He wasn't mentioning a referendum this time either.

    It's also been a while now since we heard from the Allams on this, certainly over a week, and the mail has just confirmed that there are "on-going" discussions. Brady also found his meetings with Allam as "interesting and informative".

    I think we all agree, they shouldn't be airing their dirty washing in public, which is basically what Brady has said in this, but reading between the lines, this is the first article I've seen that seems to be suggesting the two camps could be moving closer together.
     
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  18. N

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    My thoughts exactly.

    If I wasn't a Hull City fan, Mr Allam would be doing a great job of pissing me off. I'm sick or reading this tit for tat drivel every week.
     
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