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NORTH WALES *****philes

Children were systematically raped in care homes by *****philes ​

Jimmy Savile is the doorway to a Pandora's box of some of the most sickening abuse of children this country has ever experienced, but the information regarding this NORTH WALES *****PHILE RING, has been fermenting for over 20 years, and the Establishment have managed to keep a successful lid on it so far. I think that most parents would be horrified at some of the evidence given in the Waterhouse cover up of 1997, and yet while many social workers, Care managers, and Tory & Labour councillors have been convicted of sexual abuse of children, not one *****phile reportedly linked to the corridors of power has been convicted, from that enquiry.

To say we are being governed by *****philes, would be an injustice to the suffering of the countless hundreds if not thousands of children that have been abused, we are in fact being governed by hideous monsters. Children who were put into care homes for their protection, and found that those that had the responsibility of protecting them, were the abuser's themselves, those children that ran away from these hideous monsters, were never believed by the police authorities, and were simply returned, into the cycle of abuse by these monsters. Many many of these children have committed suicide before reaching adulthood, many died in the twenties and thirties under suspicious circumstances. Why is it that these in such positions of power with a predisposition to sexually abuse young boys, continue to succeed.

In 1996, the then Welsh Secretary, William Hague ordered an enquiry by Sir Ronald Waterhouse, who heard evidence from 150 victims of abuse from 40 children’s homes, though this was just the tip of the iceberg, the staggering amount of evidence from over 600 individuals, was compelling enough to have brought many convictions. Yet this enquiry was nothing more than a damage limitation for those in the corridors of power. Why has this gained so much momentum recently, well largely by some very brave individuals that want justice, and for the truth to come out regarding those held in high esteem at Westminster, but particularly by one victim who wont go away, and that is Steven Messham, who before giving evidence to the 1997 Waterhouse coverup, had his home destroyed, Steven's own words: "before the enquiry “my house was destroyed, my car was destroyed and I had numerous threats. I’m not taking any chances any more”. those where the words he gave to the enquiry of 1997, reasons why he could not name one particular monster at the top of the Tory Party.

The Media and press in this country are controlled, to condition the minds of the Zombie masses, so much of the information although in their possession cannot be released for our so called democratic nation to read. But these 'Monsters' could not control the internet, and so the information has rightly surfaced, whether the information will continue to succeed remains to be seen. here's hoping that the remaining victims receive some semblance of Justice, I cannot conceive as a parent of any crime so hideous as the sexual and violent abuse of our young children. By the way there have been many political figures in this cesspit, but some that come up in my research, such as the current controversy over Lord McAlpine can be found on the links below and aparently many of the issues with these high profile Tory members are known to the police.

The strange thing is that McAlpine was named at the time by the then Scallywag Magazine, who were investigating the Tory cover up of the North Wales *****phile ring, Simon Regan the Editor of Skallywag had obtained sworn affidavits from the victims, implicating McAlpine and other's, but as part of the Tory cover up, the affidavits where stolen by the police authorities at the time. The notes of the interviews were kept though by investigator Andrea Davison, but these too have now been siezed by the Derby police in January 2010.

Now that this *****phile ring that Jimmy Savile proccured for is being exposed it's time that the police returned the affidavits and the notes of these interviews. the names given by those abused children, some of whom died tragically should be investigated anew, but who can be trusted to do the investigation? Can these Torries be trusted? Since William Hague and other Tory members of the last Tory goverment covered up the fact that Tory MP and Thatcher aid and close friend Peter Morrison was named by the abused children in North Wales. Peter Morrison was named as a child abuser linked to an elite Padophile ring. It is also interesting to note that Lord McAlpine did not sue the Scallymag magazine at the time for naming him, and I would be very interested to know what evidence they had at the time against him.

A SHAME ON WALES THAT WILL NEVER GO AWAY​

Links you might want to check:

1) http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/*****phile-scandal-three-victims-name-1416158

2) http://www.tpuc.org/node/34

3) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9657036/How-Tory-*****phile-claims-were-covered-up.html

4) http://the-alternative.co.uk/news/lord-mcalpine-derek-laud-top-rumours-as-newsnight-tory-*****phile/

5) http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/nov/06/wales-child-abuse-scandal-questions

6) http://www.the-bastard.com/index.php?section=42&page=6217

7) http://tomwinnifrith.com/articles/1...-cover-up-and-faux-outrage-that-truly-revolts



UPDATE LINK: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20269114


PS: I have been forced to amend this article due to comments from two posters, maybe just one poster using two different names, anyway the amendment is in answer to Knackeredjack, and GendrosJack, and my message to Gendros jack and his drivel is this, don't forget to send this new information to you good friend Lord McAlpine! I will continue to enlarge on this story as information arises

 

As a father and grandfather these stories make me wish that capital punishment still existed in this country, Once caught a bolt gun to the head would rid society of pure scum and I'm sure there'd be along queue to squeeze the trigger.The class system in the country has a lot to answer for and the sooner it's eradicated the better ( wishful thinking there I know and not in our life time but there's a link there of that I'm sure )
This country is morally corrupt ,this not just the abuse cases but everything about government be it national or local .I really fear for the future of this country and more importantly my kids

RANT OVER BUT NOT MY ANGER

 

I was listening to Radio 2 yesterday and they were interviewing Steven Messham, what went on was disgraceful. But what did shock me was a 50 year old man rang in and gave his story on what happened to him, he had never told anybody what had happened to him. To say I was shocked was an understatement, the whole system had abused him. It was disgraceful that he was abused by the very people that was there to protect him, social workers, councillors & police.

These people should be hunted down and shot, and that would be too good for the bastards.

 

I can only as a father effect the well being of my own children, but if I had the power, Capital punishment would be back for such monsters, it is the one thing that I so despise, the torture and sexual abuse of our children, given the opportunity I would gladly execute these vermin personally, and soundly sleep at night knowing I had done a very valuable service, not just for society, but more so for our children! Bonymaen we never did get rid of the class system, and that's at the heart of the problem too..............

 

Yes shooting would be far to good a way for these Bastards to die!................

 

This issue is massively wider than North Wales though. It stretches from Jersey to northern Ireland via Wales. It covers the police, the government, the social services, the judicial system, the cps, the whole entertainment industry…it was endemic. This story has barely started. It goes from the body of a private investigator being found with an axe sticking out of his head…to whole credible cases collapsing due to evidence-tampering. The trail STINKS.....

..............…but this is the tip of the iceberg...........

 

The sexual abuse of children is a special crime, not simply because of the damage it does to its victims, nor even because of the anger and fear it provokes in communities, but more particularly because it is so easy – easy to commit, easy to get away with.

Over the last six months, the Guardian has conducted the most detailed and exhaustive investigation of *****philia that has ever been undertaken by a British newspaper. We have tracked down abusers and their victims, we have spoken to the social workers and detectives and Customs officers who deal with them, to private agencies and to the most senior officials who lead the defence against child abuse.

We have seen the results of courageous work by thousands of dedicated men and women but also we have seen the results of cover-up and concealment, occasionally of corruption, of whistleblowers who are punished for trying to expose the truth, of local authorities, churches and other organisations who have closed ranks to deny or conceal allegations against their staff.

In an investigation of this, the most secret of crimes, we have found evidence of what is an open secret among many of those who fight it – that after twenty years of scandal and alarm, after numerous inquiries and reports, and despite the best efforts of those who work in it, we have created an elaborate and sophisticated failure, a child protection system which does not protect the children. - NICK DAVIES, The Guardian, Published April 1998

 

I read a conspiracy theory on gary speeds death which basically accused "higher forces in the establishment " of his death, the theory goes on about hoe Gary spped was writing a book which was set to expose his time as a school boy player in north wales which was a conduit to a high profile **** ring involving members of popular culture and government.

When i read it i thought it was a load of bollocks, but something was really strange with speeds passing, it seemed a bit odd that everything was going well in his professional life yet he had these demons inside called depression.

Im going off on a tangent here but the whole Jimmy saville thing is key to alot of it, "they" knew what this bloke was like,they knew he was a sicko,yet his links to the establishment and even royalty were enough for him to remain clear of trouble while he was alive, he obviously had a lot of **** on alot of high profile people, we can then tie this to the whole phone tapping scandal as well, as these people also have alot of **** on people in high places,so everyone knew what was going on.

BBC newsnight were going to run a story on saville,but were basically told to bin it..strange eh?? the police were told about the phone hacking scandal and refused to act on it and turned a blind eye..strange eh?

Jimmy saville dies and an amazing **** storm starts to fly but the person who could name everyone involved is dead, everything that is possible will be blamed on saville, of course he is a sick prick who prayed on the weak and vulnerable but the scary thing is how far this situation goes!

Like i said about the credit crunch and economic crisis, its all by design folks, people need to wake up to what is going on in the world, corporations are controling governments and we are being told lies every step of the way and footing the bill for it all at the same time.

GM foods, a surgeon told my friend that he was treating for cancer what foods to eat, he told him to avoid buying meat from the supermarket due to the amount of steroids pumped into the cuts, he was told not to buy the veg unless its organic or tinned, processed meats were also out of the question due to the preservative and chemicals..all this stuff is going on around us and we know nothing of it!!

The more our wages are driven down the less chance we have to buy the correct foods we need, just think about cancer 20-30 yrs ago,was it that we didnt have the technology to find out what was killing us or was it that all the chemicals we digest wernt around in those days?medical technology has moved on but we cant find the cures we need ?? the plan is to reduce population world wide,this is policy of the new world order, the enslavement is well under way and will continue, the things that are going on in this world are frightning yet through the new world orders media partners the murdoch group, we are brainwashed into thinking the X-factor ,celebrity culture,reality TV and even prem league football are the only things that matter in life, its all put there to distract us from what is going on around us.

We are living in scary times im afraid to say, the internet is out there but again through media manipulation its generally used for porn,downloads of films,music ,online gaming and gambling and social media all of which keep you safely tucked away at night in your house or apartment while your bank account gets bled dry by online convienience, all the wonderful access to information and knowledge we have and we got directed away from it .

Dont beleive the crap you read in the press,in fact even our own media outlets give you a different story depending in what country you are and political agenda needs to be met.
watch aljezeera and compare the news stories and the different spin put on things between fox news ,sky news,bbc and the rest...you will be suprised

 

Bit off the point, but still very true what you say Norway. In our family we stopped eating beef back in 1982 when the first rumblings of Mad cows was surfacing, Haven't purchased meat from a supermarket in over 15 years, and have been consuming organic foods for some years too, but at the end of the day the land has been polluted for best part of over 50 years, and pollution and acid rain make even organic far from perfect.

Enslavement to a new world order will just not work, as human nature being what it is, people will rebel from such tyranny, just look at the riots in Greece, the time is shortly at hand here in the UK to, for the lid to fly off. These are momentous times, and governments are going to break under the pressure of the turbulent masses, people will not put up with what our parents and grand parents had to. Getting at the truth is very difficult these days as all governments are full of ambiguity and deceit, and the continued evidence unfolding at Westminster of dishonesty and corruption, in the expenses scandal, the moral decline in standards of public service, is it any wonder our children are not safe in the system, did you know that 30,000 of our children disappear every year in the UK, I just hope that this child abuse issue gets throughly exposed, and the perpetrators put away.............

 

i hope so too Dragon, 30,000 go missing each year ?? **** me thats alot of people!

 

Yes it is, and not a bloody thing said!...................

 

its a fking sham and the sooner we take this fking vile ring of class divides down there aint fk all we can do about it>>>>>>>>you know what i think of the way this country has been ran,im ready for taking back whats ours and spreading it out equally.


fking pricks in power abusing trust over and over again.......when the fk will some twats wake up in this country hey>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still the silence on 9/11 makes me laugh 2.....<headsinsand>

 

I've read through all the comments on this thread a few times, not often I do that and the frightening thing I that I cannot disagree with one single point made by anyone.

I can't elaborate too much because of confidentiality in my job but I've seen too much that makes me think everything about the way his country is run stinks to high heaven.


Did you know that illegal immigrants get over double the old age pension. That's people that shouldn't even be here !!

I've seen people get these benefits and other things on top and then the bastards are working illegally on top of that. I've personally reported it and nothing has been done.

 

I put this same post on the General forum, but it attracted the perverts too much for my liking, so I pulled it and replaced it with an Andy Pandy video from Youtube, which was just about right for they're level of intellect, as I had finished my alterations, I noticed that in just a few days up, it had 13,000 views!!!! If they come back they're in for a surprise......................

 

Phil,

Please please please don't go to GC we don't want to attract those ****ers on this board. Some really shocking reading on there. They make John Hughs look like Enid Blyton

 

This thread is one of the reasons I don't post here anymore - too much other stuff non-footie related. I was going to post earlier then thought better of it - but in the light of recent apologies from the victim regarding the ID of the perpetrator I felt I had to. My main point is that this forum shouldn't be used to whip up hysteria about this sort of thing. I was concerned that naming certain individuals without proof when memories over time are notoriously unreliable (check out the theory of false memory syndrome) was not only unfair but defamatory. People lose their ****ing minds over this and god help you if you get caught up in it. Remember the poor paediatrician who was beaten up because the moron lynch mob thought he was a *****phile?

The fact that the victim in question has now said it definitely wasn't McAlpine and he's apologised profusely is too little, too late and this forum shouldn't be adding misdirected fuel to the fire. This is exactly where the mods should be acting, instead of encouraging it. One thing to post our revulsion at convicted *****philes but this was just tittle-tattle of the most damaging kind.

Legal action is being taken over anyone who has posted defamatory statements on the Internet and I for one don't blame him at all. I therefore suggest that this post is deleted as a matter of urgency. But hey-ho up to you.

 

For somebody that "doesnt post here anymore" you aint half had alot to say lately ...

Welcome back KJ...again ..

 

Just in case anybody misunderstands, the clue is in the headline of the Article.

"This is not football,you may wish not to comment"

Thanks .

 

This is my second post in just over a week NJ and the other one was on Vetch's well-observed witch hunt thread, but you knew that. If, as a mod you think it's OK for this forum to be part of naming people as *****philes when it turns out they are nothing of the sort then go for it.

Posting "You may not wish to comment" is neither here nor there. The lie has still been posted. The fact that McAlpine is a millionaire and a Tory shouldn't make a difference should it? Everyone who has a grain of morality or decency about them is repulsed by *****philes but spreading completely unfounded rumours is just wrong. The Internet is a very useful tool for those that do this and I just felt that Swansea Not606 shouldn't be one of the guilty outlets.

As you clearly disagree that's fine.

 

anyone who looks at this thread did so on their own accord, the title clearly says its an off topic, non - football thread. (anyway i thought you quit this rubbish site for the umpteenth time).

i find the whole thing disgusting, from the media circus which has gathered speed, the shameful act by that man off GMTV to spring a trap on the PM, going against what was agreed they would discuss, and the fact that he is openly speculating and is only sorry he got caught showing the names to the camera.....more suited to gutter journalism than what they'd like to be perceived as......

and finally what these people are being accused of, *****philia. and if they arent guilty then being associated with it.