please log in to view this image I am a convinced fan of Derek McInnes and was a major advocate on this forum of getting rid of Millen,when I read this comparison it gave me quite a shock.. ' City have accrued just 12 points from 17 games this season and will, in all likelihood, need to muster a further 33 points from their remaining 29 fixtures if they are to retain their Championship status. For that target to be met, McInnes must preside over a higher percentage of victories than he has managed during 13 months at the helm. The former St Johnstone boss has taken charge of 51 games since succeeding Keith Millen in October last year, presiding over 12 wins, 13 draws and 26 defeats. His win ratio to date is 23.52 per cent. Millen stepped into the breach when Steve Coppell stunned City by resigning after just two games at the helm in August 2010 and was sacked 14 months later following a poor start to the 2011-12 campaign. But his record was actually better than that of his successor, the Londoner taking charge of 56 games, 18 of which resulted in victories. His win ratio at the time of his departure stood at 32.04 per cent.. please log in to view this image Derek McInnes...51 Games...12 Wins...Win Ratio 23.52% Keith Millen.........56 Games...18 Wins...Win Ratio 32.04% DM has to step up to at least 37.44% Win Ration and needs to muster a further 33 points from our remaining 29 fixtures if we are to retain our Championship status. Comparison...Millen better by....8.52% (rough figure) DM has to raise his game from 23.52% to 37.44%, that's an increase of 13.92%, an enormous task and must be achieved to maintain our status.... http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Bristol-City-boss-increase-win-ratio/story-17388990-detail/story.html
It's hardly surprising. Aside from the pushes at the start of his tenure, the end of the season, and the start of this season it's been all losses for McInnes. The fans never really liked Millen because they associated him with Gary Johnson's reign, and as a "yes man". That's why so much **** is spoke about him. At the start of the season most of the fans on here were talking of a run for the playoffs, not another relegation fight. McInnes could turn it around, but he's made numerous poor decisions in his time in. He's floundered with his tactics, he's dropped capable players without reason (Pitman) and he's consistently showing that he is unable to adapt when results go against him. I didn't think he was the right appointment at the time and I thought we got rid of Millen too early given how much of his career he's given to this club, but I still have faith that he can grow into the role and improve enough to keep us in the league. The board need to sit down with McInnes and highlight what he gone wrong to see if he can answer himself. Even if McInnes turns it around again and goes on a spending spree what's to stop him making all the same problems later on? If things aren't improving then perhaps Lansdown can force his hand by putting in a director of football or by relieving some of his staff to make room for new staff?
Neither Millen or McInnes are the right men for the job, I said from the start of both appointments. And there is so much said about the so say rubbish that they both had crap to build with etc. Is that the majority of the same rubbish that got us to the playoffs? Of course this is all excuses as said regarding no luck, injuries etc..are just more excuses. Fact is, for both managers, it was too big of a job for inexperienced managers at this level. I keep saying something needs to be done soon rather than later, when it will be too much of a task to get out of.
'Of course this is all excuses as said regarding no luck, injuries etc..are just more excuses. Fact is, for both managers, it was too big of a job for inexperienced managers at this level.' Sometimes I wonder if our two clubs occupy parallel universes. Buckle's record was better than McGhees, who is also inexperienced at our level. Although we have potshots at one another it's incredible sometimes how the same problems afflict both clubs!
It may be true that neither manager was suitable for the role, but with limited resources, a fairly small fan base and issues off the field as well as on how many talented and experienced managers would want to take us on? Lansdown took a punt on an inexperienced manager with a good reputation north of the wall and it could have paid off extremely well. It still could, but we'll have to see how McInnes deals with this situation and whether the multiple emergency signings we've made will make a difference.
LAST SEASON I had very little doubt that we would survive although it was closer than I thought..........however this season It is difficult to assess, last season fixtures fell for us when we were in the bottom 6, a lot of the teams around us had to play each other and Pompey lost 10 points....... this year the division is very haphazard just look at the teams in the bottom 10 Burnley, Wolves, Leeds, Birmingham and Bolton...there is a well defined bottom 5 with Barnsley 4 pts (2 wins) behind 6th from bottom. this weekend Ipswich play Peterboro AND JUST LOOK AT MIDDS HOME RECORD!!! WITH ONLY 5 GAMES LEFT CANT EVEN MATCH HIM
Confession is good for the soul Wiz We are both singing from the same hymn sheet with McInnes though. I think we should give him time to get the job done. I site the same logic as when Millen was under fire - that it took AD 9 years to get us there and we are always going to be the unlikely outsiders in any promotion race
Danny Wilson was a decent Manager too. And look at Pulis now in the Premiership. Maybe we shouldnt have got rid of him either.
I wanted S O'Driscol when the job was vacant but I think DM can sort the team out and to be fair I don't understand why but for about 4 years the club has been plagued with illness and injuries especially to defenders and even more odd to players arriving here on loan usually in their first couple of games so ts unlikely to be the training methods here. However I do think DM has a blind spot with Liam Fontaine For the life of me I can't see why he was made captain or gets played week in week out when he is in no sort of form whatsoever. Having said that I think the Danny Wilson signing could prove to be inspired.
Danny Wilson was a manager in charge of a squad good enough to be promoted on several times under his reign but with a single exception (that proves the rule), he remains the perennial bridesmaid, never quite able to get it over the line. His time ran out when we failed against Brighton and more specifically, probably when he refused to play Lita who would most likely have done the job... Pulis was on a hiding to nothing, his history dictated that he had a very small window to succeed in and he didn't pull up any trees in time. Frankly, I would still rather take our recent seasons crappy brand of football than watch the stuff that Stoke played for many years under him. 10 big beefy bully boys with Kavanagh the only quality - no thanks. As far as Derek McInnes is concerned, he has my backing to rebuild this club completely which doesn't happen over night but the end result will benefit us for years to come. It would seem that One4 has completely dismissed the possibility of this and also the fact that the "old" squad was not good enough as this will no doubt be put down as just another excuse. Clearly Derek is already sacked in his mind so I am really glad that he is not in charge of the club. Derek is here to stay my friend so get used to it and get behind him and you never knows, this might even have a positive effect on the situation...
Well Prem, of course I know you won't believe this, but I really hope that you're right and Derek will turn it around. But I think if Del had the Barcelona players, he'd still be clueless of what to do with them.....so yes my faith in him is very much low. You want to give him time Prem? How much time? even to the point of relegation? Would you then have faith in him getting us back to the championship? I BLOODY DON'T! Not a hope in hell.
I saw the stats comparing Del's reign to that of Millen. Like Wize, I didn't like Millen or his wishy washy middle of the road ways. I hope that given time, Del will prove to be the excellent appointment we all (well most of us) wanted and the club goes from strength to strength under him.
What was worse was the way we were losing and the feeling around the ground under millen and the players didn't seem to care but under del there has been a lot more eagerness to have the ball and to actually take shots
