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Things We Think We Think #208

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  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    1. City are back on track, at least in terms of the result gained on Saturday. A win and a clean sheet, it’s what we’d become greedily accustomed to prior to the most recent international break. And there’s no doubt the win was welcome. But…

    2. But it wasn’t awfully convincing, was it? Bolton were as dreadful a side as you could ever wish to see at this level, a team wholly devoid of confidence and ability with ambitions extending to nothing more than hoping to stop City scoring without no apparent interest in troubling our own defence. With that in mind, a 1-0 wasn’t overly impressive, even if it was welcome.

    3. There were mitigating circumstances. We’ve been off form of late, culminating in the appalling defeat at Elland Road a week earlier. The weather was terrible. Bolton were suffocatingly negative and continued to waste time even when losing. The referee (officiating his first and probably last Championship game of the season) was awful, blowing seemingly at random, losing control early on and never threatening to regain it. So perhaps it was never going to be a good game. But there’s still a feeling City could have done more.

    4. Positives. David Meyler was back, and City immediately looked brisker and more businesslike as a consequence. Chuba Akpom was lively and committed. Robertson and Clucas linked up well. Robert Snodgrass finally made his home debut, and made a zesty contribution. It didn’t really click, but that wasn’t really for a want of trying.

    5. We’ll bank the three points and move on. It keeps City in touch at the top, restores a little confidence and means that the visit of Reading on Wednesday evening provides the opportunity for us to start putting another little run together. They aren’t a bad side but they are playing badly, with four defeats in five (the other being a win over, ahem, Bolton). Ideally, City will win to nil again and we’ll all be able to love Paul McShane again.

    6. There’s something we don’t much love right now, and that’s some of the people who work at Hull City AFC. On Saturday, for the first time, the aurally offensive garbage that is music after a goal was played at City. Its effect was remarkable. Midway through a goal celebration, supposedly the pinnacle of the Saturday afternoon experience, thousands of people suddenly stopped as they realised the ghastliness that was being directed at them, and the atmosphere never recovered. Many booed – so well done to those responsible, never in 111 years will City fans have been booing seconds after a goal, so you’ve at least created a squalid slice of history there.

    7. The response has been encouragingly blistering in its condemnation. On social media, the internet forums, at the game and in the pubs afterwards, the disgust at this ridiculous practice was unanimous. That’s certainly been good to hear. James Mooney, perhaps the most high-profile City employee on Twitter, has already promised it’ll be reviewed this morning (though leave off the personal abuse towards him, yeah? Back in March he came out against this **** too). We’ll await the outcome of that review later today, though quite what there is to debate is anyone’s guess. The answer to this question, which has been raised before, is no. It has always been no. It will always be no. No, no, no.

    8. We’re overreacting, being aged stick-in-the-muds, etc etc. The kidz love it, lol. And so on. As though somehow anyone under the age of 25 is so eye-wateringly stupid they don’t know the difference between an authentic football experience and cheesy Americanised nonsense and therefore need to be pathetically patronised. Well, maybe they do and football as we know it is effectively dead. But we don’t think they’re that dense. They booed too, and bear in mind that they were as vocal as anyone in protesting against the name change.

    9. Part of the problem is that the club is, as usual, paying no attention to its fans, and is instead intent upon antagonising us. Again. From the (defunct?) Fans’ Working Group meetings, the club were repeatedly told that goal music would not be welcome. They knew the views of the majority, and did it anyway. It is impossible to conclude anything other than that those responsible have done this purely to anger and annoy. Which is so utterly contemptible that we long anew for the departure of the owners and their miserable gaggle of acolytes.

    10. At what point should be start being worried by City’s attendances? Bolton may only have brought a few hundred, but to get under 16,000 when we’re supposed to be aiming for promotion is pretty terrible. It’s almost as those those ridiculous price rises everyone said was a bad idea was, well, a bad idea.

    http://www.ambernectar.org/blog/2015/12/things-we-think-we-think-208/
     
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  2. AlRawdah

    AlRawdah Well-Known Member

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    Presumably the search for a new Chief Executive willing to work with the club's owners continues. That seems to have gone rather quiet. Or was the goal music the clarion call announcing the new starter?
     
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  3. Barchullona

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    Buckingham's reporting of the reaction to the goal music was mealy-mouthed, second-rate not let's upset the apple cart journalism at its finest. "It appeared a section of the crowd booed...". Pathetic. It appeared? This suggests it may have happened but he didn't notice it. A section? Even if it did it was only a small minority. A hooligan one which can go away and die when they want to perhaps?
     
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  4. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    Yes, so log as they leave the club for those who just want to watch good football.
     
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    I like point 8. The stock response to anyone complaining about moronic stuff the club do is to accuse them of being stuck in the past. Even if they're 20 somethings.
     
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    On a thread about about lack of atmosphere you refer to watching instead of supporting. Sums up the problem in a nutshell. Presumably if the football isn't good these watchers will be leaving early in disgust?
     
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    These ******* have clearly introduced after goal music as a source of aggravation.

    Allam Out.
     
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  8. Charon

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    our atmosphere is **** because the football is **** - all you have to do is watch the football served up by Pardue, Pullis, Howe etc at a fraction of the cost and compare and contrast that with the crud Bruce serves up at significantly more cost and with no attacking flair - nothing will change until he's gone
     
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    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with that actually. Out home atmosphere in the last 20 years has mostly been ****. I can only remember one game when it was genuinely exhilarating, and that was the Watford play-off semi.
     
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    Excellent.
     
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  11. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    Pulis? Are you taking the piss?
     
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    take your point to some extent although nothing will ever get close to Watford because it meant so much and the prize was so great - however there have been many games when the atmosphere has been ok - for some reason I remember Derby at home when we won 2 1 and Leicester, QPR , Wednesday, Leeds Liverpool so I don't agree its been mostly **** - however, this season is by far the worst its been and I suspect on that we may agree
     
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  13. Billybloodthirst

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    Not sure I agree with that it's true the atmosphere at the KC has at times ( too many times ) been dire there's been plenty of occasions when it's been as it could be. Swansea in 2003 Fulham in 2008 Cardiff in 2013 spring to mind as particularly good examples of what a proper atmosphere could be like. Unfortunately I entirely agree that the present owners lunatic pricing and complete destain for the non corporate fans has massively contributed to our poor attendances and the generally lack lustre atmosphere at the ground.
    I defy anyone to say the pathetic attendances are not due to overpriced tickets in a city where too many struggle to make ends meet. Of course if you are a multi millionaire or the playboy son of one who drives round in a £250,000 motor what would you know of that !
     
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  14. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    That's simply not true, there's been plenty of games when the atmosphere was great, though sadly they were generally in the lower leagues.
     
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    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    That was only on the match report, the HDM have done something specifically about the goal music...

    Five things we learned from Hull City's win over Bolton Wanderers - starting with Mud's Tiger Feet
    By Hull Daily Mail | Posted: December 14, 2015

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    MUD IN YOUR EYE: Chuba Akpom, centre left, celebrates his gioal for Hull City against Bolton Wanderers. But was Tiger Feet from Mud, right, necessary?

    1) Mud goal music got a filthy reaction

    AFTER Akpom netted the game's only goal on 19 minutes, the tannoy system at the KC proceeded to blare out Mud's 'Tiger Feet'. Why?

    The 70s hit was met with a chorus of boos from home supporters.

    Some will argue that it improves the atmosphere and that it gets fans on their feet, but surely, immediately after they have seen their side score, fans need no encouragement to scream and shout?

    Granted, the KC is not exactly a cauldron of noise but there are less cringeworthy ways of improving the atmosphere than goal music. Goal celebrations should be spontaneous.

    http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/things-learned-Hull-City-s-win-Bolton-Wanderers/story-28361011-detail/story.html#ixzz3uINUnVYJ
     
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    It doesn't help when the stadium is only 2/3 rds full.
     
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    Two weeks before Christmas, with another home game quickly following four days later ( and a televised one at that) was an ideal time to cut admission prices to encourage people to come along. These two weeks are notorious for low crowds and anyone with the slightest interest in football and a bit of knowledge about our club and the people who live around here and support it would have known that.
     
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  18. lakesideview

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    Spot on tubby, common sense and logic says ideal time for cheaper admission.
    But, common sense and logic is something sadly missing in the managment of Hull City.
    Marketing is total madness in the overall running of the club.
    Absolutely totally clueless.
     
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  19. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean PR?
     
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    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    Are they not the same thing?
     
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