However he did say: "but he is a good man." Someone I follow on Twitter who posts on the Oatcake as well, posted this on the latter: Unless you're Turkish, you won't understand the vid, but just seen this on some Turkish blokes Twitter. It's a question show and they ask him who the best and worst manager who he's played under are. http://www.ligtv.com.tr/Videohaber/default.aspx?r=1&hid=92661
I don't think Pulis is a very complicated coach thats for sure. His best attribute is getting the best out of journeyman players in my opinion
I agree. He tends to struggle with the bigger players like Tunny, where I still think he was wrong to sell him, and wasn't treated (in footballing terms) well at Stoke. I don't buy the opinion that a section of Stoke fans have, that he didn't suit our system. Tunny made a mockery of this when he was allowed playing time from the start, and I think he could have become an icon at Stoke had he been utilised correctly. With some players though, he just manages to work his magic and gets them performing, the most recent examples are Etherington, Pennant and Walters. 2 of which were flawed talents who, without sounding too pretentious, have been given a home, the other has been a journeyman throughout the divisions and is someone Pulis has managed to get the very best out of and got 12 goals in his debut season. Kitson was another where there was a clash of egos. Both were at fault for how things worked out at Stoke, shame how Kitson has plummeted since leaving Reading, as he is a good, premier league standard player on his day, in my opinion.
I think he is too attached to his old fashioned manager principles. Nowadays the players have a lot bigger egos and are a lot less tough so they have to be treated a bit more delicately. This isn't a character assassination because i am sure he can change his approach, Neil Warnock was the same but if you look at how well he has done with QPR and players like Taarabt then you can see it is possible for managers to adapt.
Pulis does like guys who can pass but that is secondary to hard workers who can tackle. Luckily we have Glenn Whelan who is all three, but hasn't always been consistent in his time at Stoke, but superb last few months, which is the reason why Pulis has in the past gone for the likes of Whitehead and Delap. Last season we bought Marc Wilson from Pompey, who's turned out to be a good signing. In an ideal world, we'd put him at centre mid, but he is too lightweight for a Pulis centre mid (or "cage" midfielder as it has been dubbed by Whitehead and Stoke fans) so he's been put at full back, right and left, and he's been a revelation there. However for the future Wilson has to be in centre mid, once he is a lot stronger that is, as he could be the future for us, he's young, he can tackle, he works hard and is an excellent passer but he isn't quite there yet, but he's still young, and will improve. Mind you we are desperate for a couple of players in that area. Hopefully someone like Mark Noble will join, he would be a massive improvement on what we have.
Whilst I never wanted Tuncay to leave it was I think a clash of personalities. Pulis and Tuncay never seemed to hit it off. For sheer skill, he's one of the best player's we've signed in the last few seasons. T.P. never gave the guy a chance to prove how good he is. Will always remember that stunner v Utd one of the last games Tuncay played for us. I'm not sure that Mr Pulis can change, the way he thinks about getting results. Player's like Tuncay have their own way of doing things. I suppose a bit like Best although Best was a pure genius. I don't think that you coach some of the things I saw Tuncay do on the pitch. Others who spring to mind are. Hoddle, more recently Lionel Messi. I don't care who was his manager that guy was born to play football, you don't teach it. And I'm just curious to ask the Gunners fans something. Do you think that Arsene would be better advised too just send out player's like RVP, Fabregas, Walcott and others without a set plan, and just let them loose. Kind of off the cuff football. I know former Stoke manager Tony Waddington used to do that. Not much of a team talk, just go out there and do what you do best? My guess is, Arsene could do a lot worse because the talent in that team is so bloody obvoious. It would drive me nuts if I was a Gunner's fan and player's like Walcott and Co are asked too play out of position, which has happened before. And WHY don't youre player's shoot more often? This is not a wind up, just an observation. cos that would also drive me too drink. If you have a player on the edge of the box, just hit it!
I thought the idea that passing teams are better off without discipline is a myth, all 'traditionally total football' teams like the great Ajax one and the recent Barcelona one work heavily on positional sense and organised attacking moves. Not sure what would happen if we went all joga bonito but I don't think that it would be any better than how we play now. As for playing people out of position, whilst Walcott is a striker at heart he is useful on the right hand side and is capable of playing well there. I think our formation at the moment is good as it allows us to monopolise possession but we need to be more willing to adapt if things aren't going our way in a match. Don't really know why we don't shoot more often but I reckon it is some type of side effect of our passing approach that we have turned to since 2006.
I think that Tunch got WAY too egotistical towards the end. Pulis did the best he could and maybe went to hard on him, re: subbing him all the time etc.
How he was treated was a disgrace but weve all been through this debate many many times. I still believe we lost a quality player who worked his balls off and was very comfortable on the ball and made thigs happen.
The Tuncay debate will go on and I, for one was sorry to seehim leave. That said, we then embarked on a remarkable cup run and but for the loss toWigan would have finished 9th in the league. Tuncay was a talented and skilful player, the type we need perhaps if we are going to progress further. What impact could he have made in the final I wonder?
as a big fan of tuncay i was very sorry to see him go.A great talent who i feel can play in any team.It just never worked out with TP for whatever reason but as proudpotter says with the injuries we had we missed him big time for the final.
Oh no, trust me I wa s big fan. A very big fan Thought what he brought to the club was invaluble, and he would of worked his socks off in the Final, but I won't dwell on THAT.
I think it's simple maths re Tuncay and Pulis didn't add up Jub! Like's said above, too sub the guy at times was simply bad management but, we've had a fantastic season so I'm not going to critisise T.P. too much. Would love too have seen him at Wembley but it wasn't to be. We've moved on, so has Tuncay.
