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The Toivonen Situation

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  1. Cove

    Cove Well-Known Member

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    Wrote a bit on this on my blog this afternoon:

    The Toivonen situation

    For weeks the transfer rumours about Toivonen kept the fans in Norwich City busy. Is he, or is he not going to sign a contract with the club. One day it's a done deal, the next day Toivonen snubs another offer, and today... Thijs Slegers of Voetbal International reports that Toivonen is still open to a transfer to Norwich City. He is just taking things 'slow'. With things already going on for four weeks you can say that that a sloth is slower with making a move.

    According to the article, Toivonen is in no hurry to sign a deal. Norwich and PSV already agreed on a 5.7 million Euro transfer fee but the Swedish International is waiting for a bigger club to show interest, stalling the Norwich deal for the time being. Problem for him is that he may have a month left on this open season of the transfer market, but if he wait too long, he might end up with nothing. PSV have given Toivonen two options: either transfer to a new club this summer or sign an extension on the contract. If he refuses to do either, PSV will kick him out of the squad and he won't play a game this season. And he'll depart as a free agent next year.

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    I need this bit more time Norwich...

    Something similar to this situation Toivonen is in happened to Ajax top earner Miralem Sulejmani. Ajax bought the talented left winger for a whopping 16 and a half million Euro's in 2008 from SC Heerenveen. Till today the biggest internal transfer for the Eredivisie. Last year Sulejmani's contract was also due for extension, Ajax either had to sell him or extend his contract with a big pay cut as Sulejmani failed to deliver on expectations, rather all of the expectations for that kind of money. The Serbian international refused to sign a new deal and so the club decided Sulejmani didn't play a single game. In May Sulejmani's agent announced the player signed a deal with Benfica as a free agent. 16.5 million Euro's + millions in wages evaporated for Ajax in five years.

    Now Ola Toivonen is not on exorbitant wages as Sulejmani was, but he has cost the club a couple of millions in wages and around 4 million euro's in transfer fees to Malmö FF. Toivonen has probably seen what happened with Sulejmani, and could be bluffing and sit a year waiting for a better club. It worked for Sulejmani it could work for him. It's too bad the fans and the clubs suffer the most from these kinds of situations.
     
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  2. Resurgam

    Resurgam Top Analyst Staff Member

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    Reading that Cove, makes me think his attitude might not be best suited for Norwich and that we shouldn't chase him anymore.
    Let the greedy bugger rot in the reserves
     
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  3. canarie-chippy

    canarie-chippy Well-Known Member

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    Must admit he's not one I fancied us to sign, the signs were never there from day one that he wanted to come here.
    So I don't think he'd bust a gut for the club if we were to sign him.
    Two words.....jog on !
     
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  4. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    i assumed this deal was off... <yikes>

    i'd still take him. quality player <ok>
     
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  5. Cove

    Cove Well-Known Member

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    Hey you, promised you last week there was more to come. Does a website and twitter account suffice?
     
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  6. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    ooh, very nice - not noticed, sorry - i shall get reading! <ok>
     
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  7. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    just one thing though cove, if you're going to have a twitter account, please don't use the same avatar as that awful, fraudulent piece of scum 'indykalia' <ok>
     
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  8. Cove

    Cove Well-Known Member

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    I had to set it up quickly, any suggestions?
     
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  9. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    depends how diverse your blog will be. if its purely club football then maybe the eredivisie trophy or a montage of a few dutch young hopes? if you include the national side then a picture of the oranje fans cheering might be quite nice, gullit lifting the euro88 trophy or the cruyff turn might be a bit obvious but are iconic.
     
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  10. Cove

    Cove Well-Known Member

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    Yea got that, changed it, but I need something that combines the Eredivisie with something newsy/journo ish avatar. Now I wish I could photoshop something, but I don't know photoshop <steam>
     
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  11. Caister Canary

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    Never seen or heard of him untill we were linked. The media have a wonderful way of warping things out of proportion, so don't buy all this attitude business. That said, I'm very much take it or leave it, I'm sure we'll live.
     
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    I know I shouldn't pre-judge Toivonen purely on what I read in the media. I realise that how someone comes across in the media doesn't necessarily reflect what they are 'really' like (especially after reading Superman's experience of Worthington). But something about Toivonen makes me very jittery. He seems too much of a loose cannon to work well with a club like Norwich which has always been based on good team spirit, even in the days of top four finishes and Bayern Munich. I get the impression he'd fit in much better at QPR.
     
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  13. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Why, because they're a bunch of total misfits? <laugh> <ok>
     
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  14. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    People really shouldn't worry about this, it's te nature of signing the higher class of player we are going for now. If you want to be in the prem there's very little you can do about it.
     
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    RiverEndRick Well-Known Member

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    It could be that if City can sign Quagliarella, they will no longer be interested in Toivonen and that would then finish it. I think he could be a good signing, but like others I'm wary of his committment to the team and the club.
     
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  18. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    It may even be more drawn out than Hoopergate <yikes>
     
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  19. K E M P

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    NEVER <grr>
     
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  20. RiverEndRick

    RiverEndRick Well-Known Member

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    I wonder whether Toivonen might be in a tricky situation now. He obviously thought a bigger club, perhaps even a CL club would come in for him, but they haven't. Is he testing the water to see if City are still interested? If they aren't, then what are his options? To go back to PSV with his tail between his legs and play long-ball football, which he doesn't like? Fulham don't seem inclined to up their £2m bid and no other club seems inclined to match City's £4.2m bid, so where does he go now? It's a strange one to be sure.
     
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