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The third quarter

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  1. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    20 Games played and how does that compare to last season?

    WELL THE TOP ......2014/15
    6 WERE ON.......**MKD ONLY PLAYED 19

    44........................42
    43........................41
    40........................38**
    38........................38
    36........................32
    34........................30

    2ND 3RD and 6TH TEAMS WERE PROMOTED!
    THE YEAR PREVIOUSLY 2012/13 ONLY 2ND TEAM AFTER 20 WENT UP!

    LEAGUE ..... ..... .... ..... .... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..Top ...... Bottom .... .....
    TEAM ........ PLYD ... Won ... Draw ... Lost ... 12 pts ... 11 pts ... PTS
    CITY........ ..... 20 .... 12 ........ 6 ....... 2 ...... 22 ...... 20 ...... 42
    SWINDON ..... 20 ..... 12 ........ 5 ...... 3 ....... 22 ...... 19 ...... 41
    MKDONS.. ..... 19 ..... 11 ........ 5 ...... 3 ....... 15 ...... 23 ...... 38
    PNE......... ..... 20 ..... 11 ........ 5 ...... 4 ....... 14 ...... 24 ...... 38
    SHEFF UTD. ... 20 ..... 9 ......... 5 ...... 6 ...... 19 ........ 13 ...... 32
    OLDHAM.. ..... 20 ...... 7 ......... 9 ...... 4 ...... 15 ...... 15 ...... 30
    NOTTS CTY ... 19 ...... 8 ......... 6 ...... 5 ...... 17 ...... 13 ...... 30
    ROCHDALE .... 20 ..... 9 ......... 3 ...... 8 ....... 11 ...... 19 ...... 30
    PETERBRO ..... 20 ..... 9 ......... 3 ...... 9 ....... 14 ..... 15 ...... 30
    BRADFORD .... 20 ..... 8 ......... 5 ....... 7 ...... 16 ...... 13 ....... 29
    FLEETWOOD ... 20 ..... 7 ......... 5 ...... 8 ...... 18 ....... 8 ....... 26
    WALSALL. ..... 20 ...... 6 ......... 8 ....... 6 ...... 18 ....... 8 ...... 26
    CHESTERFLD . 20 ..... 6 ........ 7 ...... 7 ........ 10 ...... 15 ...... 25
     
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  2. cidered abroad

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    I consider that, realistically, only the current top five are capable of gaining automatic promotion.
    I do not believe that City will implode in the same way that Orient did last season.

    Of the others just below, maybe Bradford City will make it into the playoffs.
     
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  3. smhbcfc

    smhbcfc Well-Known Member

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    Agree about the Top 5 being the only ones capabale of being in the automatic slots - I have a sneaky feeling for Rochdale in the other play-off place
     
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  4. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    at the halfway stage this is the top half of the table, whilst the top 4 are close 5th and 6th have a gap of 2 wins v 2 losses

    played 23
    LEAGUE ..... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..Top ...... Bottom .... .....
    TEAM ........ PLYD ... Won ... Draw ... Lost ... 12 pts ... 11 pts ... PTS
    CITY........ ..... ..23 .... 14 ....... 6 ....... 3 ......... 22 ...... 26 ...... 48
    SWINDON ..... 23 ..... 14 ........ 5 ...... 4 ....... 25 ...... 22 ...... 47
    PNE......... ..... 23 ..... 13 ........ 6 ...... 4 .......... 17 ...... 24 ...... 45
    MKDONS.. ..... 23 ..... 13 ........ 6 ...... 4 ....... 21 ...... 23 ...... 45

    BRADFORD .... 23 ..... 10 ........ 6 ....... 7 ...... 22 ...... 14 ....... 36
    SHEFF UTD. ... 23 ..... 10 ........ 6 ...... ..7 ...... 22 ........ 13 ...... 33
    OLDHAM.. ..... 23 ...... 7 ........ 10 ...... 6 ...... ...15 ...... 15 ...... 31
    NOTTS CTY ... 22 ...... 8 ........ 7 ...... 7 ...... ...18 ...... 13 ...... 31
    ROCHDALE .... 23 ..... 9 ........ 4 ...... 10 ....... 12 ...... 19 ...... 31
    PETERBRO ..... 23 ..... 9 ........ 4 ...... 11 ....... 14 ..... 16 ...... .31
    FLEETWOOD ... 23 ..... 8 ........ 6 ...... 9 ...... 21 ....... 9 ....... 30
    WALSALL.. ..... 23 ...... 7 ........ 9 ....... 7 ...... 22 ....... 8 ...... .30
    CHESTERFLD . 23 ..... 8 .......... 8 ...... 7 ........ 13 ...... 19 ...... 32
     
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  5. Mind the gap!

    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    On that form 96 points at the end of the season :)
     
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  6. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    After most have played 25 positions are

    LEAGUE 25 ..... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..Top ...... Bottom .... .....
    TEAM ........ PLYD ... Won ... Draw ... Lost ... 12 pts ... 11 pts ... PTS
    CITY........ ........ 25 ........ 16 ....... 6 .......... 3 ......... 25 ........ 29 ...... 54
    SWINDON ..... 25 ......... 15 ........ 6 .......... 4 ....... 26 ...... 25 ...... 51
    PNE......... ........ 25 ......... 13 ........ 7 .......... 5 ......... 17 ........ 25 ...... 46
    MKDONS.. ..... 24 ......... 14 ........ 6 .......... 4 ......... 24 ........ 24 ...... 48
    SHEFF UTD. ... 24 ........ 10 ........ 6 .......... 8 ......... 22 ........ 14 ...... 36
    ROCHDALE .... 25 ......... 11 ........ 4 .......... 10 ......... 15 ........ 22 ...... 37
    BRADFORD .... 25 ......... 10 ........ 6 .......... 9 ......... 22 ........ 14 ....... 36
    CHESTERFLD . 25 .......... 9 .......... 8 ......... 8 .......... 13 ...... 22 ...... 35
    NOTTS CTY ... 25 .......... 9 .......... 8 .......... 8 ......... 18 ........ 17 ......... 35
    DONCASTER ... 25 ......... 8 ........ 10 .......... 7 ......... 18 ........ 17 ...... 35
    OLDHAM.. ..... 24 .......... 8 ........ 10 .......... 6 ......... 18 ........ 16 ...... 34
    FLEETWOOD ... 25 .......... 9 ........ 7 ......... 9 .......... 22 ....... 12 ....... 34
    Port vale.. ........... 25 ...... 10 ........ 5 ......... 10 ............ 11 ...... 21 ...... 32

    Fleetwood 22, Sheff 22 ,Walsall 22, Bradford 22, Yeovil 18, have taken most of their points from top placed teams, whilst Gills 21, PVale 21 , have taken them from teams at the bottom. Yeovil a danger to top teams when they play away
     
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  7. johngalleyfan2

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    Table aligned to 27 games played
    played 27
    LEAGUE ..... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..Top ...... Bottom .... .....
    TEAM ........ PLYD ... Won ... Draw ... Lost ... 12 pts ... 11 pts ... PTS
    CITY........ ........ 27 ........ 17 ....... 7 .......... 3 ......... 29 ........ 29 ...... 58
    MKDONS.. ..... 27 ......... 16 ........ 7 .......... 4 ......... 24 ........ 31 ...... 55
    SWINDON ..... 27 ......... 16 ........ 6 .......... 5 ......... 29 ........ 25 ...... 54
    PNE......... ........ 27 ......... 13 ........ 8 .......... 6 ......... 18 ........ 29 ...... 47
    CHESTERFLD . 27 .......... 10 .......... 9 .......... 8 ........ 13 ...... 26 .......... 39
    SHEFF UTD. ... 26 ........ 11 ........ 6 .......... 9 ......... 25 ........ 14 ...... 39
    ROCHDALE .... 26 ......... 11 ........ 5 .......... 10 ......... 15 ........ 23 ...... 38
    BRADFORD .... 27 ......... 10 ........ 8 .......... 9 ......... 22 ........ 16 ....... 38
    certain teams take more points from top 12 than bottom 12
    from top teams .. bottom teams
    Sheff .. 25.............PNE .. 29
    Walsall .. 25 ........Chstrfld .. 26
    Yeovil .. 18 ........ Rochdale ..23
    and Gills and Scunny both have taken 21 from bottom teams
     
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  8. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Nope still no idea what all this is on about?

    Are you just printing the league table and adding waffle?
     
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  9. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    not exactly rewriting the league table, you will note, above, most teams have played 27 games, but that did not occur on the same week!
    below PNE there is a big gap so points /games below there don't really have effect.....yet
    After every 6 or 7 games I divide the table into top "12" (or as close as possible based on points), and the bottom.
    Walsall whom we play at WEMBLEY have an amazing record against teams in top 12... 25 of 36 points coming from them
    whereas PNE have taken 29 of 47 against teams in the bottom ranks
    even Yeovil with 18 of their 25 is against teams in top half!.... whilst most of the bottom teams had them from teams around them..thats why Yeovil after 27 games were bottom!

    after 23 games there is obviously a reversal of fixtures, so it will be interesting to see how things fare, CITY have played 4 reverses for 10 points PNE 5 for 5 points!
     
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  10. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    the real time table adjusted to mostly 30 games played

    LEAGUE 30 ..... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..Top ...... Bottom .... .....
    TEAM ........ PLYD ... Won ... Draw ... Lost ... 12 pts ... 11 pts ... PTS
    CITY........ ........ 30 ........ 19 ....... 7 .......... 4 ......... 32 ........ 32 ...... 64
    SWINDON ..... 30 ......... 17 ........ 6 .......... 7 ......... 29 ........ 28 ...... 57
    MKDONS.. ..... 30 ......... 16 ........ 8 .......... 6 ......... 25 ........ 31 ...... 56
    PNE......... ........ 30 ......... 16 ........ 8 .......... 6 ......... 22 ........ 34 ...... 56
    SHEFF UTD. ... 30 ........ 14 ........ 7.......... 9 ......... 28 ........ 21 ...... 49
    OLDHAM.. ..... 30 .......... 11 ........ 10 .......... 9 ......... 24 ........ 19 ...... 43
    CHESTERFLD . 30 .......... 11 ........ 9 ......... 10 ........ 13 ....... 29 ....... 42
    DONCASTER ... 30 ......... 11 ........ 9 .......... 9 ......... 19 ........ 23 ...... 42
    BRADFORD .... 30 ......... 11 ........ 8 .......... 9 ......... 25 ........ 16 ....... 41
    FLEETWOOD ... 30 ........ 11 ........ 8 .......... 11 ......... 23 ....... 18 ....... 41
    PETERBRO ..... 30 ......... 12 ........ 5 .......... 13 ......... 21 ........ 20 ...... 41
    WALSALL.. ..... 30 .......... 10 ........ 10 .......... 10 ......... 28 ....... 12 ...... 40
    ROCHDALE .... 29 ......... 12 ........ 5 .......... 12 ......... 18 ........ 23 ...... 41
    CREWE.. ........ 30 ........... 11 ........ 5 .......... 14 ......... 15 ....... 23 ....... 38
    NOTTS CTY ... 30 .......... 10 .......... 8 .......... 11 ......... 18 ........ 20 ......... 38
    Certain teams perform better against teams in top half or bottom half, CITY HAVE 32 pts from both
    Chstrfld only 13 from top
    Crawley only 10
    Walsall 12 from bottom
    Yeovil only 10
    the most important points are from teams close to you..CITY dropped against PNE Swindlers and Sheff. but shared 6 pts with Sheff.
    if Yeovil had 18 points against bottom teams would be in mid league
     
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  11. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Still confused, it's the league table?
     
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  12. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    I maybe should have left it till Wed, when 4 more teams have played 30 games and Sheff 29.
    ASSUMING city get their act together and win then, they will have played 30 games for 64 points 7 POINTS AHEAD
    SHOULD DISASTER STRIKE TWICE AND ANOTHER LOSS..... = 30 GAMES 61 PTS
    whereas MKD Chesterfld, Peterbro, will have actually played 31.
    10pm in 9 days time we will have the clearest picture with 10 of the top 16 all having played 32 games
    ....played 33........................................................... games between ....... 23. 28 / 28 33 / 33 38
    LEAGUE ..... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..Top ...... Bottom .... ..... start..... start ......start
    TEAM ........ PLYD ... Won ... Draw ... Lost ... 12 pts ... 11 pts ... PTS .....POSN..... POSN ....POSN
    CITY........ ........ 33 ........ 21 ....... 7 .......... 5 ......... 38 ........ 32 ...... 70 .......... 1.......... 1.......... 1
    MKDONS.. ..... 33 ......... 18 ........ 8 .......... 7 ......... 28 ........ 34 ...... 62.......... 2.......... 3.......... 2
    PNE......... ........ 32 ......... 18 ........ 8 .......... 6 ......... 28 ........ 34 ...... 62 ..........3 ..........4.......... 2
    SWINDON ..... 33 ......... 18 ........ 7 .......... 8 ......... 32 ........ 29 ...... 61 ..........4 ..........2.......... 4
    SHEFF UTD. ... 32 ........ 15 ........ 8 .......... 9 ......... 31 ........ 22 ...... 53 ..........5 ..........8.......... 5
    DONCASTER ... 33 ......... 13 ........ 9 .......... 11 ......... 19 ........ 29 ...... 48 ..........6 ..........13.......... 6
    CHESTERFLD . 33 .......... 12 ....... 9 .......... 12 ........ 16 ...... 29 .......... 45 ..........7 ..........5 ..........7
    BRADFORD .... 32 ......... 12 ........ 9 .......... 11 ......... 26 ........ 19 ....... 45.......... 8 ..........6 ..........7
    Port vale.. ..... 33 ......... 14 ........ 6 .......... 13 ......... 20 ........ 25 ...... 45 ..........9 ..........17 ..........7
    PETERBRO ..... 33 ......... 13 ........ 5 .......... 14 ......... 24 ........ 20 ...... 44 ..........10.......... 9 ..........10
    FLEETWOOD ... 33 ........ 12 ........ 8 .......... 13 ......... 23 ....... 21 ....... 44 ..........11.......... 11.......... 10
    BARNSLEY ..... 33 ......... 13 ........ 5 .......... 15 ......... 14 ........ 30 ...... 44 ..........12 ..........16 ..........10
    OLDHAM.. ..... 32 .......... 11 ........ 10 .......... 11 ......... 24 ........ 19 ...... 43 ..........13 ..........7 ..........13
     
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  13. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    played 33
    LEAGUE ..... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..... ...... ..Top ...... Bottom .... .....
    TEAM ........ ....PLYD ... Won ... Draw ... Lost ... 12 pts ... 11 pts ... PTS
    CITY........ ........ 33 ........ 21 ....... 7 .......... 5 ......... 38 ........ 32 ...... 70
    PNE......... ........ 33 ......... 18 ........ 9 .......... 6 ......... 29 ........ 34 ...... 63
    MKDONS.. ..... 33 ......... 18 ........ 8 .......... 7 ......... 28 ........ 34 ...... 62
    SWINDON ..... 33 ......... 18 ........ 7 .......... 8 ......... 32 ........ 29 ...... 61
    SHEFF UTD. ... 33 ........ 15 ........ 8 .......... 10 ......... 31 ........ 22 ...... 53
    DONCASTER ... 33 ......... 13 ........ 9 .......... 11 ......... 19 ........ 29 ...... 48
    BRADFORD .... 33 ......... 13 ........ 9 .......... 11 ......... 26 ........ 22 ....... 48
    OLDHAM.. ..... 33 .......... 12 ........ 10 .......... 11 ......... 27 ........ 19 ...... 46
    CHESTERFLD . 33 .......... 12 .......... 9 .......... 12 ........ 16 ...... 29 .......... 45
    Port vale.. ..... 33 ......... 14 ........ 6 .......... 13 ......... 20 ........ 25 ...... 45
    ROCHDALE .... 32 ......... 13 ........ 5 .......... 14 ......... 31 ........ 23 ...... 44
    FLEETWOOD ... 33 ........ 12 ........ 8 .......... 13 ......... 23 ....... 21 ....... 44
    BARNSLEY ..... 33 ......... 13 ........ 5 .......... 15 ......... 14 ........ 30 ...... 44
    PETERBRO ..... 33 ......... 13 ........ 5 .......... 15 ......... 24 ........ 20 ...... 44



    City maintain their top position in a truer table as most have caught up with the 2 or 3 games they had in hand.
    City were top after 23 games, top after 28 games and go into the next 5 games at the top
    Doncaster were 6th after 23 games but after dropping to 13th have clawed their way back to 6th along with Bradford
    Sheffields bullish intent after their cup run is all but finished 20 points behind us 10 behind 2nd.
    7 pts cover the middle 12 teams, Colchster's promise "short lived" as the bottom 5 become more detached
     
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  14. johngalleyfan2

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    only ROCHDALE of the top half teams, post above, not yet played 33 games but a decisive win tonight shows the disappointment of Sat!!!!
     
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