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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. LBW

    LBW Well-Known Member

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    I doubt the new owner gives a toss about the statement and will have been well briefed on the current “ relationship issues “
    I expect big changes in the PR approach and no doubt it’s already sorted, new seats look nice, making bold statements ( piss taking party is finished ) is all well and good but the fact is all that really matters is results on the pitch. Get that right and everything else pales into significance, win on the pitch 1st.
     
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  2. Viva la revolution

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    You're saying that as a sunderland fan, you have no right to know what the clubs new owners plans are for the club?
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    The only thing that's unbelievable is how a post can be so dreadfully inacurate ...

    ... almost as if you're making it up as you go along.
     
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  4. Guy Incognito

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    True, but to me the sad thing is that decent reps and members, like Guinness Guzzler, end up copping flak over it when they have had nothing to do with it. It causes unnecessary division and friction between our supporters just at a time when we soukd nearly all be happy and positive. You'd almost think that Mick Martin or Steve Wraith had had a hand in it. Or has William Storey managed to hack into their computers!?!
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    That's accurate, we have no actual right to know the plans of the owner or club.

    As the club have amptly demonstrated they're happy to outline their plans in some detail but we have no inate right to demand anything.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I have a great deal of respect for GG and Ghandi who I've met.

    But, if you take on that role you have to take the rough with the smooth.
     
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  7. Viva la revolution

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    That's where we differ I'm afraid. We absolutely do have a right to know the plans and ambitions of the club owners.

    Without proper scrutiny of owners we wouldn't know how much these current clowns have robbed us.
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

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    It's not a question of differing opinions.

    Unless we're shareholders, directors or investors we have no right to see the plans of a privately owned company.

    As for this expert scrutiny, what figures have they revealed about the extent of the robbery.

    I can tell you that ...

    ... no one, from RAWA, has a clue.

    Do you?
     
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  9. Viva la revolution

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    You don't think fans have any right to know what the plans are for their club?

    Tbh, I quite frankly struggle to believe that.
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

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    They don't have the right and that's an absolute fact.

    It's entirely up to the club as to what they reveal to the supporters and nothing can change that.

    Anyway, can you give me an idea of what all this scrutiny has revealed ...

    ... neither you, me or RAWA have any idea how much Donald accepted for his shares and what the figures are for the 'sale' of the club.
     
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  11. Viva la revolution

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    Unless I'm mistaken, the use of the parachute payments, Methven's disdain for fans, the fpp lies about investing in Donald and why they didnt buy the club, and the asking price for the club all came from rawa meetings with the club.

    I could be wrong though.
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

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    Sadly mate you're way out with most of that.

    Besides which it's all basically unsubstantiated gossip with no actual facts or figures.

    For all we know, at the moment, Donald could've 'done a Short' and virtually given the club away as well as wiping the debt.

    I'm not saying that's true but RAWA don't have a clue about the true figures.
     
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    The Multichoice stadium has a ring to it :emoticon-0103-cool:

    disclaimer, I don’t actually know anything
     
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  14. Mav3rick

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    KLD needs to put out a statement telling RAWA to f**k off!
     
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  15. Viva la revolution

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    I don't think anything I said was incorrect, but its certainly not worth falling out over.

    I did receive a "keeps coming back" award from the site mind, so its all good
     
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    Only my opinion here of course but can we all stop this dissection of what RAWA meant or didn’t mean. Does it really matter one iota? Let’s get back to supporting the club and discussing the good times to come.
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    I'm not saying anything is inaccurate, just unproven.

    As an example what lies were told about FPP not buying the club and what are RAWA claiming?

    Don't worry about an answer mate, there isn't one.
     
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  18. Viva la revolution

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    There is an answer. Donald reckoned that FPP got cold feet because of massive fan expectation so made the loan instead as an investment in Donald's skills, by means of dipping their toe in the water. This is of course utter nonsense.

    Don't worry about any answer mate.....
     
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  19. Late goal Scorer

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    There is nothing in the statement that would remotely concern him and if supporters wanting to see their club build rather than flog academy players, make long serving employees redundant and improve structure and recruitment concerns him he’s in the wrong sport. It’s no more than a welcoming plea to be honest and ambitious. I genuinely can’t see why anyone is upset by it, it’s been given far more significance than it warranted.
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    So why are you crediting RAWA with being the people who 'broke the news' if it's that obvious. No one believed that shyte from the start and didn't need RAWA to chip in with their opinion which is no better than anyone else's.

    However, as FPP have never denied or confirmed that it's simply conjecture.
     
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