Silly season rumour or a grain of truth? If it was offered I would take the swap in an instant...despite the crap performance in the CL semi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ancelotti keen to re-sign Di Maria Real Madrid's manager would love to bring Di Maria, who has settled in well at Old Trafford ( ??? - that really undermined the piece ) , back to the Bernabeu - and United have the chance to use the Argentina international as a makeweight in a deal to sign Bale if Louis van Gaal gives the green light. Recent reports have claimed that Manchester United are prepared to offer a world-record £90 million fee to sign the player who became the most expensive footballer in history after completing his £86 million move from Tottenham to Real Madrid in 2013. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it your money? Anyway, thirty million is completely unrealistic but then so is ninety. In answer to the OP, I think it's a decent swap. Di Maria clearly hasn't settled, although he could well yet, and we know Bale is more than good enough and used to the premier league. A straight swap would be nice but as both of the players value has fallen based on this season we'd have to pay a balance of sorts. Depends what it is but I'd snatch their hands off.
Why? A proven success in Prem. He'd be incredible value even at £59m but more likely £70m plus. If you are happy with Di Maria's assists for £59m, I'm sure you would be happy with Bale's goals for a larger fee
Doesn't Bale play in the same position as Depay? Bale is a very good player worth way more than UIR's £30 million and nowhere near the £90 million as someone mention £65m - £75m is probably a realistic fee for him.
£25-30m plus Di Maria would probably be fair. The two players were £85m and £60m when they last moved, so that basically gives Real back what they paid for Bale over what they got for Di Maria. Either way, I think most Utd fans would be happier with Bale over Di Maria
Yes, if the prices were static. If we think that both their prices have dropped significantly, then the difference would have as well. 25% drop means £67m minus £45m which is £22m or thereabouts. Real as usual are playing their usual cagey (even devious) game. Putting out via their paper Marca and via Calderon their determination to keep Bale even though they may have decided to sell him. Realisticall only a few clubs can afford him. Even fewer if people are worried about FFP. I hope United are not hood winked by all their public announcements. United are in a slightly better position than 12 months ago (No CL then) when there was an air of desperation in United's purchases and when premiums of 25%-50% on value were ineviatble.
MiR wont want Bale, until it is confirmed United have made a bid, then he will be the one of the best players on the planet. On topic tho, If Madrid offered Bale for Di Maria and £25m I would take their hand off. Home grown player, PL proven....plus you lose Di maria who hasn't taken to the PL as well as some hoped.
Even if Di M has been a disaster, he is only one year into his contract. Bale is only two years into his 6-year contract. Transfer fees are calculated more on this basis than recent form
Transfer fees are 'calculated' on what the buyer is prepared to pay, that's pretty much it. I'd go with Bod, Di Maria plus 20-25 million would be a decent swap/sale.
Bale on top form is far more of a match winner than Di Maria plus proven in the P.L.....so it's a no brainer (assuming there is a chance of this happening which I doubt). Di Maria may 'come good' but there is the fear he could just be another light weight tricky foreigner who won't cut it over here.
Not really. If a player is out of contract, no fee is necessary. It is called the Bosman ruling Equally if a player has one year left on a five year contract, he can be cheaper than having four years left on a five year contract. Not that simple though
You're both right, a player IS worth whatever a buyer is prepared to pay. But what the buyer is prepared to pay is partially dictated by the length that is left to run on their current contract. (Aswell as the quality of the player and the position he plays) ie, Real wouldnt have paid £86m for Bale if he had a year left on his Spurs contract, they would slash their offer to Spurs, and if Spurs said no, they would arrange a pre contract and then sign him for nothing in 12 months
Shame that Di Maria has had such difficult start with United. An attack of Di Maria (on form), Depay, Bale and Rooney would have been interesting.
Of course there is no fee if the player has no contract, they are free. Do you really feel you needed to point out that bit of freely known information? We know fine well both have contracts, you said so yourself, so that bit is irrelevant If Real Madrid were to 'calculate' the fee based on what is left of Bales contract and 'calculated' the figure to be 120 million quid United would just say no. Ergo, the fee is what the buyer is prepared to pay or else there is no transfer. Glad to clear that up for you
Which was exactly my point. Don't expect Chief to admit this. He is as stubborn as a mule, bless his cotton socks. But it is the way we like him
So when Bale comes and flops, which at the prices quoted, is very likely (people expect 50 goals from players that expensive for whatever reason) we can enjoy 100s of posts a day about how we will sell him or swap him or whatever else is made up at the time. How exciting. Rather the club didnt waste its money and spent it on what we actually need. A defender or two and a replacement for Carrick.
Hopefully we as a club dont go down the route of dumping anyone who doesnt meet initial expectations. This supposed swap is based on di maria having a poor start in England while Bale struggles in Spain and the assumption that if they swapped, both would be amazing. What of Bale doesnt shine when hes not the Focal point? Like erm... Right now?
I suggest you look up the definition of 'exactly'. The point is that the seller can quote (calculate) any transfer fee they like but if no one will pay it then it's irrelevant. It depends who the buyer is, in the case of it being Real, like when they bought Bale, they like to get their knackers out and show the world how massive they are and so wanted Bale and paid what was asked. If we really, really want Bale then we might pay the fee Real calculate (invent). If their calculations are all to **** though then the transfer won't happen. To sum up, there is no transfer calculation. It's a fee made up by the seller which is then negotiated with the buyer. Or are you telling me there is a transfer fee calculator which all clubs adhere to? Pray tell.
