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The sick moronic chants. This is not football. Or what football is about.

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  1. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely disgusting, how must the family members of the lost loved ones feel? This goes way beyond any acceptable limits. There is no place in football for these slimeballs, and If you happen to be one of these slimeballs I hope that a little piece of poetic justice is heading your way. And may it be swift and harsh.


    Chants of sick Manchester United and Leeds yobs branded disgustingBy Ian Ladyman
    Last updated at 11:51 PM on 21st September 2011

    Comments (7) Add to My Stories Share Manchester United and Leeds fans who sullied the names of the victims of Munich and Istanbul have been branded disgusting and deplorable as West Yorkshire Police opened an investigation into a night of shame at Elland Road.

    Tuesday night's Carling Cup match between the clubs was marred by United fans singing songs about Leeds fans stabbed to death in Turkey 11 years ago.
    Tragedy: The Munich air disaster of 1958, where 23 people died
    Leeds fans dragged their club's name through the gutter by chanting about the 1958 Munich disaster.

    Malcolm Clarke, of the Football Supporters' Federation, said: 'This crosses the line. It's not acceptable for supporters to celebrate or mock the death of another supporter.
    'Banners or songs or chants, it's all the same. It's all disgusting stuff. I am sure the vast majority of fans of both clubs would agree with this.'



    United fans urged to shop the thugs whose vile songs shamed the club
    By Ian Ladyman
    Last updated at 11:51 PM on 21st September 2011

    Comments (1) Add to My Stories Share Manchester United will need the co-operation of their own supporters if they are to track down the fans who spent part of Tuesday's Carling Cup tie at Elland Road mocking the murder of two Leeds fans in Istanbul 11 years ago.

    Senior United staff are known to be appalled that some of their travelling support held up an 'Istanbul' banner during the first half of the game and also sang about Leeds fans being stabbed by Turks.
    Let the football do the talking: Leeds manager Simon Grayson (left) and United manager Sir Alex Ferguson urged restraint
    United are keen to track down the perpetrators and would even consider banning them from Old Trafford.

    However, it is understood that United feel they have virtually no chance of identifying them unless they are picked out by those who were sitting near them or who saw them on television.

    Many fans at away games buy tickets from season ticket holders and then 'lose' them once inside the ground.

    This means that, in the event of them behaving inappropriately, the source of the original ticket can not be traced.

    The champions last night released a statement criticising their own fans for mocking the deaths of Christopher Loftus and Kevin Speight in Turkey in 2000 and also the Leeds supporters who sang songs making light of the 1958 Munich air disaster before and during Tuesday's game.

    A spokesman said: 'We don't condone that sort of behaviour and it was sad to hear those chants coming from both sets of supporters.'

    Spoiled sunset: Shameful scenes at Elland Road
    While a minority of United fans sang about Istanbul inside the stadium on Tuesday, some Leeds supporters greeted the arrival of visiting coaches before kickoff with equally distasteful chants about Munich.

    Malcolm Clarke of the Football Supporters' Federation believes such behaviour should be judged in the same way as racist chanting.

    He said: 'We need to self-police this. We managed to do that with racism and we must do it with this. It's just as vile. There is an obligation on everybody in football to stamp this out. There are no excuses.'

    In the past, United have been proactive regarding offensive chants aimed at Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger.

    Messages in the match programme, and texts and emails sent to fans and signed by manager Sir Alex Ferguson, have asked supporters to stop the singing.

    On this occasion, there is not much United can do given that Leeds are in the Championship and are not likely to face their great rivals again for some time.

    Last night, the FA were waiting for a report on the incidents, while West Yorkshire Police were carrying out their own investigation.

    Fearing that there may be incidents on the night, the FA met both clubs before the week of the game and sent a crowd control adviser to Elland Road on the night.

    They are awaiting his report. In the past the FA have encouraged clubs to deal with offensive chanting themselves by opening dialogue with their fans.

    Dynamic duo: Michael Owen (left) celebrates scoring his second goal against Leeds with Ryan Giggs
    They are only expected to act on this occasion if they feel United or indeed Leeds could have done more in the run-up to the game.

    The police were last night examining footage of violence outside Elland Road and of fans chanting and holding the banner inside the stadium.

    Once again, however, they are likely to need the co-operation of the public if they are to put names to faces.

    On Wednesday night, Supt. Vernon Francis, of West Yorkshire Police, reflected on a night that saw 21 fans arrested after clashes outside the ground and two police officers suffer injuries, including a broken leg.
    He said: 'I have seen the footage. I am a seasoned officer and I am quite surprised at how ferocious it was. It was very violent. There is a full investigation under way to identify the people involved and bring them to justice.

    'There was a wide range of ages involved, from 15 up to 55. There were hundreds involved. There were people who turned up intent on causing violence.'

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  2. cuteybuns

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    Put them in a zoo where they belong.
     
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  3. Sandanski

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    To be quite honest I heard things as bad in the fulwell. The man u runway song springs to mind. Every club has their moronic element and cup games and friendlies seem to get them out of the woodwork.
     
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  4. I agree..

    I remember the Harry Roberts song well from the fulwell..
     
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  5. Billy Death

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    Aye, I remember the Harry Roberts thing too.

    Another thing that sticks in my mind was the mags chanting, " wheres your shipyards gone ".

    Wheres theirs gone?

    Up to Glasgow so the navy can have their ships on time that's were. Swan Hunter lazy ****s.

    Only thing that closed Swan's was the ****e workers.
     
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  6. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    What exactly were they chanting?
     
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  7. Billy Death

    Billy Death Guest

    When?
     
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  8. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    The Leeds and Man United fans?
     
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  9. Billy Death

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    They were chanting about the Munich air crash & the Man U fans were chanting about the Leeds fans getting stabbed to death in Istanbul.
     
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  10. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    Lol I know that much mate, I was wondering if anyone knew the actual chants?
     
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  11. Billy Death

    Billy Death Guest

    Not word for word like.
     
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