The Protest March

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For me, the march is a good thing. I won't be attending myself as I have work commitments.
I think it's an opportunity to show MA that we want a bit more from him. A bit of communication perhaps? A little more ambition? A new player when it's obviously needed instead of gambling with the future of the club?

It's a natural progression to previous responses to Mikes actions. Eventually, something will give. My betting is that we will be relegated. Perhaps not this year or next but it is in the pipeline. You can feel it about the place. It lingers like a bad smell.

(It may also showcase our situation to the rest of the world and hopefully someone, somewhere will say - "I can do a better job than Mike Ashley and I've got the money to back up my claim")
 
bishbosh said:
For me, the march is a good thing. I won't be attending myself as I have work commitments.
I think it's an opportunity to show MA that we want a bit more from him. A bit of communication perhaps? A little more ambition? A new player when it's obviously needed instead of gambling with the future of the club?

It's a natural progression to previous responses to Mikes actions. Eventually, something will give. My betting is that we will be relegated. Perhaps not this year or next but it is in the pipeline. You can feel it about the place. It lingers like a bad smell.

(It may also showcase our situation to the rest of the world and hopefully someone, somewhere will say - "I can do a better job than Mike Ashley and I've got the money to back up my claim")
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I can actually see the prince of pork actually getting off on all the publicity in a perverse kinda way
 
Pointless exercise is freezing ya nuts off. Fight the power, stand up for your rights, and all that bollocks eh <doh> My cynical views remain firmly intact, half the time this is more about the silly saps running it rubbing their own egos
 
bishbosh said:
For me, the march is a good thing. I won't be attending myself as I have work commitments.
I think it's an opportunity to show MA that we want a bit more from him. A bit of communication perhaps? A little more ambition? A new player when it's obviously needed instead of gambling with the future of the club?

It's a natural progression to previous responses to Mikes actions. Eventually, something will give. My betting is that we will be relegated. Perhaps not this year or next but it is in the pipeline. You can feel it about the place. It lingers like a bad smell.

(It may also showcase our situation to the rest of the world and hopefully someone, somewhere will say - "I can do a better job than Mike Ashley and I've got the money to back up my claim")
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I'm with bishbosh on this one.
I would have gone to protest if it hadn't been for family commitments this morning.
 
bishbosh said:
For me, the march is a good thing. I won't be attending myself as I have work commitments.
I think it's an opportunity to show MA that we want a bit more from him. A bit of communication perhaps? A little more ambition? A new player when it's obviously needed instead of gambling with the future of the club? He has proved on several occasions he is not bothered. People have protested, they held forums with club officials etc etc nothing ever changes. Pardew told it straight, that is the way he is. Its foolhardy to think a man of those means is going to change because a few folk go for a walk

It's a natural progression to previous responses to Mikes actions. Eventually, something will give. My betting is that we will be relegated. Perhaps not this year or next but it is in the pipeline. You can feel it about the place. It lingers like a bad smell. You could well be right, there could be risks on the horizon. Again though a walk won't change that path. All it does is bring a bit of unwelcome publicity and furthers an already festering mess

(It may also showcase our situation to the rest of the world and hopefully someone, somewhere will say - "I can do a better job than Mike Ashley and I've got the money to back up my claim") Being blunt, if anyone was interested they'd step up. They wouldn't need a few people to go for a walk to drag them in. Business just doesn't work like that. If someone is looking for a plaything like he was originally is the only hope. To be honest they are few and far between and the highest risk anyway
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Nobody has come up with anything valid that it achieves to me. I can't see anything positive - unless they are putting butties on.
 
500 of a sell out 52500 crowd, I'm sure Mike will be devastated. Tonight's 12 pints and vindaloo will almost feel like a chore to him.
 
RolyD said:
I don't agree with the severity of your assessment. I'm not defending Ashley, by the way, but we're solvent with quality players throughout the side. Player for player we're on a par with Everton, near enough, and I think ahead of West Ham and West Brom. We didn't get £86m for one player this Summer, so couldn't come close to Spurs' spending. Arsenal are the most consistent CL qualifiers outside of ManU. The top 3 aren't worth discussing. Liverpool are backed by significant dollar sums. Everton only spent what they did because they received £27m for Fellaini. No-ones net spend is that significant anymore. The likes of Cardiff, Villa had to outspend us because they are already behind us and have to spend to have a chance of staying up. We spent on what we felt were top class players in January not to consolidate but to push on. We all know we're a couple of players short, but we're not sacking the head of recruitment and replacing them with Kazakh window cleaners.

I just don't think we're in protest territory, there's much, much worse out there. If the club had managed to bring in literally one more player, even a lump like Gomis, there'd be no protest. When the line is that fine, then protesting isn't really the right action.
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That's my point though. I'm not comparing us to manchester or spurs, just saying that's where we were, then we tread water a bit and they got away whilst everton caught up. then we tread water a bit more and they passed us and west ham caught up. This cycle can only lead to us becoming the 18th worst team in the league.
I agree we have 10 quality players, who would fit in any other premier league squad. But beyond that there's nothing of note.
And I would argue that the January spend was purely out of necessity otherwise we would have gone down.
The summer was the point where the club had to sit down and say this is where we are weak compared to the mid table clubs and this is how we deal with it.
It seems they put too much stock in
1) the January signings will settle in and perform
2) comparing to the unreachable champions league clubs and thus justifying not strengthening. We can't match Spurs spend so there's no point trying.

And we didn't sack the head of recruitment and replace him with Kazakh window cleaners. He resigned and we replaced him with a drunken bench dweller.
 
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Noun

patsy (plural patsies)

(informal, derogatory) A person who is taken advantage of, especially by being cheated or blamed for something.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24593830

Love JKs comments (if true) - "Through astute financial management and by maximising every commercial opportunity available to us" - Whoah there! Let me just remind you that a couple of weeks ago the club admitted that all of the Sports Direct advertising was free!!! How the **** is that maximising commercial opportunity you imbecile?

Any dullard would be able to tell you that ANY money received for advertising is better than NO money for advertising.

Also, as an asside, if Sports Direct make such huge profits, why would they not want to pay NUFC some cash for advertising? Surely it would be tax deductable and therefore better off in our coffers than the governments?
 
bishbosh said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24593830

Love JKs comments (if true) - "Through astute financial management and by maximising every commercial opportunity available to us" - Whoah there! Let me just remind you that a couple of weeks ago the club admitted that all of the Sports Direct advertising was free!!! How the **** is that maximising commercial opportunity you imbecile?

Any dullard would be able to tell you that ANY money received for advertising is better than NO money for advertising.

Also, as an asside, if Sports Direct make such huge profits, why would they not want to pay NUFC some cash for advertising? Surely it would be tax deductable and therefore better off in our coffers than the governments?
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And this is the fans issue. We know the club reels out the party line (the only line they know the whereabouts of) which is a pack of lies. They then emphasize it by suggesting Joe Kinnear had anything to do with that statement and still expect us to swallow it.
As I said in another thread, the untouchables are at this time untouchable, so don't aim for them. Start off by aiming for our rivals.
Of course he could have it all sussed and see it like the sports wear industry where there are two main players (addidas/nike) and the rest (donnay, slazenger), the money bubble will burst, then our rivals will fold and he can cherry pick for pennies.
 
I don't like the way Mike Ashley has done certain things... Changing the name of the ground, sacking Hughton, wasting genuine potential in squads by being unnecessarily frugal, and yeah, treating fans like customers rather than supporters... However, a lot of that can be argued for if you're only interested in money, so I'd let it slide. The biggest mark against him in my opinion, however, is appointments like JFK, twice. It's an utter nonsense, like Mike doesn't want us to progress, and worse, like he's trying to alienate the fan-base.

If it wasn't for the overwhelming sense that Ashley is simply in it for the money (which fans will never understand) and retains contempt for people he's essentially fleecing like Del Boy, I'd be willing to put up with it. As it is, he ain't getting anymore of my money. That's the only protest that's worth anything I'm afraid chaps.
 
bishbosh said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24593830

Love JKs comments (if true) - "Through astute financial management and by maximising every commercial opportunity available to us" - Whoah there! Let me just remind you that a couple of weeks ago the club admitted that all of the Sports Direct advertising was free!!! How the **** is that maximising commercial opportunity you imbecile?

Any dullard would be able to tell you that ANY money received for advertising is better than NO money for advertising.

Also, as an asside, if Sports Direct make such huge profits, why would they not want to pay NUFC some cash for advertising? Surely it would be tax deductable and therefore better off in our coffers than the governments?
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<laugh><laugh> I just love the thought of JK even knowing words like "astute financial management" and "maximising commercial opportunities", let alone being able to piece them together into a comprehensible sentence.
 
TheJudeanPeoplesFront said:
I don't like the way Mike Ashley has done certain things... Changing the name of the ground, sacking Hughton, wasting genuine potential in squads by being unnecessarily frugal, and yeah, treating fans like customers rather than supporters... However, a lot of that can be argued for if you're only interested in money, so I'd let it slide. The biggest mark against him in my opinion, however, is appointments like JFK, twice. It's an utter nonsense, like Mike doesn't want us to progress, and worse, like he's trying to alienate the fan-base.

If it wasn't for the overwhelming sense that Ashley is simply in it for the money (which fans will never understand) and retains contempt for people he's essentially fleecing like Del Boy, I'd be willing to put up with it. As it is, he ain't getting anymore of my money. That's the only protest that's worth anything I'm afraid chaps.
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This is why I said earlier that the march was a natural progression. It's a step up from chants and banners at matches. The next logical step for me was to stop lining MAs pockets. Obviously this is the same for JPF.
 
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