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The Problem with Liverpool!

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by timmy5x, Oct 24, 2011.

  1. timmy5x

    timmy5x Member

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    As another weekend of football has finished we have to look back at a massive opportunity missed by LFC. With Manu and Chelsea both losing Liverpool could have closed the gap to 3 points to 2nd place whilst retaining 5th position.

    Instead now when we look at the table we see spurs a point ahead with a game in hand and Arsenal after their terrible start to the season now only 2 points behind in 7th.

    Liverpool’s problems with the weaker teams continue so why do we always struggle to take the 3 points from games where it’s there for the taking!

    In previous years Liverpool never seemed to attack the opposition with the intent that we saw against the other top 4 teams however this year is slightly different. Against Norwich LFC were incredibly aggressive creating chance after chance not only in the 10 mins but throughout the game, so whets the problem this time? I hate to say it but I think we are missing an out and out top quality finisher! IMO our only Striker that is a clinical finisher is Carol and he's suffering a massive downturn in his form ATM. Suarez is a very good player but as seen in the last 2 games he can create chances but has failed to net at the critical moment.

    If you look at the other top teams they all have strikers whose best ability is putting the ball in the back of the net (hernandez,van percy, Dzeko, Torres(debatable)) , this is why I think LFC need to invest heavily in Jan in a top striker who put the chances away time and again.

    Overall I think the new team is gelling well and we are unlucky not to be 6 points ahead of where we actually are, but the lack of goals is really costing us now. If we do look for someone In Jan who do you think we should sign?
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Suarez is more suited to the link up role behind the striker. The problem playing him as the out and out striker is that he still comes deep to collect the ball and is desperate to be involved. As a result, by the time he gets into a goal scoring position, he's probably run out of steam.

    Torres was prolific because he was at the end of the chances, and not really involved in the build up.

    If Suarez is to succeed as a proper striker, he will have to become less involved in the build up but then we lack his skill and ability in the deeper position and personally, I don't think we have anyone else who can do what he does.

    I agree in that we need a poacher, a finisher, natural goal scorer. This person also needs to fit in with our style of play. Someone with a good touch, can dribble, good movement, touch of pace and intelligent.
     
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  3. luvgonzo

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    The striker problem is clear, Suarez needs a partner and we either play Carroll or buy.
     
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  4. SKY+

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    We quite simply need a proper number 9. Someone who scores goals as soon as they get a sniff of the goal. A combination of Suarez and someone like Hernandez (for example) would be incredible.

    Suarez could carry on going about his business knowing that someone is in the right position to simply finish chances off. I feel that Suarez at the moment doesn't feel like he can fully rely on his strike partner (Carroll or Kuyt) to finish the chances he creates, therefore sometimes makes the wrong decision and tries himself to score.
     
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  5. HammersmithBlue

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    Is Carroll not good enough?
     
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    Not for our style of play. I don't rate him, but hopefully he'll prove me wrong.
     
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    I think Carroll will come good, I would go as far as to start him with Suarez and give him time on the pitch to settle in. As long as we don't start launching the ball at him.
     
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    People keep saying carrol wont fit in with our style of play but on saturday downing put in quite a few excellent crosses and we had a couple of headed chances. Not saying carroll is the answer but just an example of where he would fit in.
     
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  9. SKY+

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    To be fair that is very true.

    Trouble is when Carroll plays the service is ****! So it's not Carroll's fault in that sense.
     
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    We haven't really tried carrol and suarez up front together though have we?
     
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    When you spend 35m on a striker surely he must fit in to your style of play.
     
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  12. timmy5x

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    Carrol is just in a bit of a rut ATM as much as Torres is the same at chelsea! I don't think carrol is the problem just the lack of striking options is more evident as he's still not back to where he was at the begining of last season. The point is that other teams have better options when one of there strikers has a bad period, we were hoping Belamy would fill that gap but i think perhaps he's not filled it enough.
     
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  13. luvgonzo

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    He is a young player and as Kenny has said we bought him for 5 years not 5 minutes. I think he is struggling with the pressure at the moment but will come good.
     
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    fair play but surely when you spend 35m on a player he should be ready now; and KK has had him for eight months already with no sign of improvement.
     
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    50m and Torres come's to mind! Chelsea have had to change their whole setup to accomadate him and he's still not scoring! (goals against Genk don't count)
     
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    Of course we would all love him to be scoring and be a great player for us now. He's not at the moment and we have to live with that and hope the situation changes.
     
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    Totally agree; 50m player should be ready to handle pressure etc as should 35m player. Both have bottled it
     
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    The positive thing is that in seasons gone by we never looked like beating many of the sides we should have hammered. We'd lack desire and our play would be sloppy, so we'd be drawing and losing games we should win on paper. This season we actually look like winning, and should indeed be winning by 3 or 4 goals.

    But the negative thing is we still aren't winning these games. The style of play doesn't matter at the end of the day, just the scoreline. Hopefully, fingers crossed, they'll start flying in soon. We just need to thump a team 4 or 5 nil, and I think that should see a continued run of goals.
     
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    IMO both Carroll and Torres will come good and just because their impact hasn't been imeadiate doesn't mean that they are bad buy's! The difference is that Chelsea have cover with anelka and Drogba, United have Hernadez and bebotov, city have Dzeko and Tevez, Arsenal have Walcot and Arshavin and we have Belamy!!

    If we are serious about making the top four we need more striking options as you can't win games without goals!!!
     
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