Some interesting prices in there... not least that a season ticket in Cardiff can cost more than with the Swans. Arsenals ticket prices are insane ! The biggest shock for me is that a season ticket for Colchester can be more expensive than with the Premier League Swansea City !!! Just noticed that non-league Luton have a season ticket that costs more than ours as well. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19842397
footballs well overpriced.......germnay get a lot more for thy monies worth i can tell ya>>>>and they get the freedom 2 stand on a terrace 2 ..
Sit down will you rubbery, your making the place look untidy, causing decent where ever you go!...................
not wrong there aber, they know how to treat the fans over there....... small things like your ticket doubles up as your ticket to use public transport to the game, and some grounds like dortmunds even have terraces....... because the tickets are so cheap they get full stadiums and everyones happy......
On 5 Live this week they had a guy from Man City trying to defend their pricing (including £2.50 for a cup of tea) by suggesting that the premium compared to Germany is that Premier league supporters in this country got a package that included far more than just 90 mins of football. Left me scratching my head at what that could be - especially as Swamp says above that in Germany some clubs include travel in the ticket price! The seats may be comfy at the Emirates but I could furnish my whole house for the price of a few home games there!
you can watch top German clubs for a tenner due to their wage cap and foreign policy....who has the best international team.....any of our 4 home nations even a British team or Germany.....Who has got things right...
Cardiff's cheapest is also £100 less than the Swan's cheapest! That asside, it is a rip off. It all comes down to player's salaries. Nothing's cheap these days though. Can't get over the Kidderminster £4 pie, what's in it, Venison and Caviar.
The pie's at the liberty are rubbish. tika ffs and too hot to eat, I dont buy anything anymore as its a rip off. football in the uk needs to think how much longer can the fans keep paying these prices because as sure as eggs are eggs it will end up a rich mans sport where joe average would only go to selected matches or not at all. they must start with a cap on wages for everyone, Im not talking about the £200,000/week player Im talking about the £25,000/week players like us. Its getting higher and higher every season and there will come a point where the players wont take anything less. Wages have gone out of control and something must be done for the good of football, you cant blame the players as if the club is stupid enough to pay these stupid wages then they are going to take it. but eventually it will bring the clubs to its knees as the fans will be pushed to the limit on what they can afford to pay to watch a game.....Its robin hood syndrome in reverse, robbing the poor to give to the rich....
'it will end up a rich mans sport where joe average would only go to selected matches or not at all' already happening in most of the big clubs, arsenal, chelsea, man u..... less so in the other smaller ones as the glory supporters arent interested in mid table or relegation scraps. a cap on wages? will never happen and nor should it. the reason clubs like wigan, swansea, stoke etc can hold their own in the PL is because roughly 80% of their turnover is from TV money - which is generated because the big clubs pay huge wages to class players to keep the foreign (and domestic) TV companies paying ever increasing amounts of money - because TV subscribers want to see world class players. take them away and they arent interested. impose a wage cap and TV revenues would drop, and because the top clubs derive a much lower percentage of their revenue from TV money, they would be much less affected and hit hard by it. clubs with small crowds wouldnt be able to compete and you'd get a situation similar to that in spain. the clubs pay so much in transfer fees and wages because survival in the premiership is worth so much to the club. in any other walk of life you wouldnt bat an eyelid at people highly in demand getting huge wages. as we have a shortage of skilled plumbers should we impose a wage cap on them? no.
If TV money pay the wages then why do clubs up their prices ???? How much further can the average fan be expected to pay for 90 minutes of football. to cut the cost of what fans pay must start at the top and to do that there must be a cap.....You cant keep putting the prices up for the fans as the fans who without them the football club would not survive......you have to start somewhere to make it reasonable for supporters to be able to afford to support the club because without us there is no club....
ok dai, say there was a wage cap, you'd have to get the whole of europe to agree to it as if only the PL agreed then there would be a flight of all the top players to the other leagues, and they'd get all the TV money instead.... the clubs can easily afford to make every PL ticket £20 or less but why should they when there is 92% capacity? all that would do would be to reduce all their incomes. they are mostly foreign owned businesses and operate as businesses - why should the glazers reduce prices when there are tens of thousands of glory supporting mugs are willing to pay their extortionate prices? they are in it for the money and the fans plight in these economic times is not their concern.....
Take a leaf out of Germany's book. they were like us and they had a major overall and introduced a cap on wages and the amount of foreign players they can play in any one match.......The benefits have been massive. you can watch a top match for a tenner, there are more German players playing top football and getting a chance, and younger German players are getting a better chance of playing.. Their international players from U16.17,18,21 and national team has improved significantly........To me this is the way forward and if we have a cap then a lot of these foreign players who come for the money would think twice.....We don't need them taking the places of British players, they are not coming through anymore as clubs look to recruit foreign players before our own....Germany realized this and eventually did something about it and after a time everyone is a winner....The British players, the fans and the international teams can only improve if we follow Germany's example....Its great to see all these foreign players perform but to what cost do we let the demise of British football take over....
dai, i know what your saying but whats more important to the owners of clubs, lining their pockets with massive TV deals and match day revenue or the english national team? if the premiership clubs followed germany's example there would no doubt be better british national teams, but the league would be less commercial and generate much less revenue, thats why i dont think it will ever happen. £3bn over 3 years is the answer to that. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/13/premier-league-tv-rights-3-billion-sky-bt
salary cap is a good idea but not the way Dai proposes. over here the Rugby have a cap of say 5 mill a year (whatever it may be), they then have to pay their players whatever to keep with the said figure eg one may be on 100,000 another on 20,000. also in Brisbane, your ticket includes free public tpt to and from the match as it seems is the case in germany.
good debate and interesting opinions on here. we may disagree with the solutions but we all agree on the problem that football is rapidly drifting away from its grassroots support and that the average joe is being priced out. the consequences of this will be souless stadiums full of people who have come to be 'entertained' and see their 'stars' but wont be making a lot of noise and certainly wont be feeling the same joy and pain that weve become accustommed to - in short a watered down and americanised version of the beautiful game. I agree with Dai that something has to be done about players wages but take Swamps view that a wage cap would have to happen across Europe to be effective. Money isnt everything but when it becomes everything then you see all the other problems that come with it, arrogance, selfishness, feeling of superiority, lack of loyalty etc - its no surprise that young footballers are affected by this when such huge sums are involved. the other side is the fans relationship with the player and vice versa- when someone is earning more in a week than you do in a year then its going to be difficult to feel an affinity with them. dont get me wrong, the players are hugely important for us and deserve a decent reward for all that responsibility but its getting way out of hand and quite frankly the wages some are earning are obscene and immoral in a country where many are struggling to get by and a world where THE MAJORITY dont have enough to eat. IMO big business is ruining football and changes have to be made.
good post exiledswan......every man and his dog knows that something must be done to make it easier in the pocket to support your team but what is the question.....I fear that my grandchildren wont have the privilege of supporting a football team like we do as it will be too expensive and that will be a shame....£35 to watch 90 minutes of football is far to much for one person. I know as probably everyone does some fans who cant afford to go because of the price and all i can see is fans dwindling in the next decade if something is not done to help the fans....
Exiled, when you say "someone is earning more in a week than you do in a year" - in the case of the top earners you are talking about TEN years!!!! If that is not totally obscene then I don't know what is and one day it will kill our game as we know it.
