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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Saint Helen

    Saint Helen Well-Known Member

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    I just had a giggling fit in work over that chart. The 4 men I share a room with wanted to know what was so funny which just made me laugh even more...
     
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  2. ChilcoSaint

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    It doesn't distinguish between Welshmen and the rest of us, sadly!
     
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  3. Saint Sosa

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    Well for one, they do eat dogs in Park Ji-Sungs country. Albeit on a much smaller scale than people think. I doubt that chant would be accepted now anyway.

    Why do no white players have songs about their manhoods? The stereotype in itself isn't even true, though 'Black' people are on average slightly better endowed. It's part of the myth making that fueled 'birth of a nation' and the KKK. The wild black savage is coming to rape all the precious pure white women with his huge pecker. The freed slave is not merely a threat to your jobs, hes coming for your daughters and wives. The legacy of this myth making led to lynchings, burnings and all sorts like vagrancy laws and mass incarceration. I don't think the chant was intended in a racial way, but it's reinforcing negative, and inaccurate stereotypes nonetheless.

    It's 2017, I'm sorry you're not allowed to be racist or offensive to people. And god damn footballs Anti Racism body for daring to speak out against a chant that perpetuates inaccurate racial stereotypes.
     
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  4. BobbyD

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    you've just defended that because it's factually correct and then said which is also factually correct but not allowed.

    Admittedly you said Parks chant probably shouldn't be accepted but if you think 1 is wrong then the other is definitely wrong
     
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  5. Saint Sosa

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    Where did I defend it? Did you ignore the rest of my post and the reasons why I think Lukaku's chant is wrong?

    Try again.
     
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  6. BobbyD

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    You have defended the the park chant because you said its factual that they do eat dogs in korea rather than just saying the chant shouldn't have been allowed as its racist (in terms of stereotyping = racism).
     
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  7. Saint Sosa

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    I said that's one difference between the two chants, I didn't say it made it acceptable.
     
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    Very good point, in fairness.
     
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    One thing it does prove is that a lot of football fans are desperately unfunny morons.
     
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  10. SaintinSerbia

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    could someone post a picture of Kylie please?
     
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  11. fran-MLs little camera

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    I was told that Welshmen were short, dark and hairy. <whistle>
     
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  12. BobbyD

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    But i dont see a difference between the two. They are both "factual".

    I apologise if ive misconstrued what you have said as you defending it.
     
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    Apology accepted.
     
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    However, one thing has been forgotten. Racist or just insulting, it is also vulgar and shouldn't be sung out in a public place. I thought such chants were supposed to show support or appreciation for a player....hardly does that.
     
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  15. BobbyD

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    100% agree with this. I think the objection is that being called a racist is a very strong word (theorectically any labelling of any race is racism if applied) but these sort of chants are typical of the tribal nature of football fans. I don't know why they tend to be vulgar and un-imaginative
     
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    Glad you specified Welshmen :D
     
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  17. fran-MLs little camera

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    As we all know Welsh women are glorious. :)
     
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  18. Saint Helen

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    Some are :rolleyes:
     
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    Fair point regarding the original myth in the US. Though I'd say that was a long time ago and many probably aren't aware of it.

    I personally don't know any black person offended by it mind, poor taste? Yes but not offensive for me.

    Smacks of this current fad of countless people being offended on others behalf to me, not saying you btw.
     
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  20. fran-MLs little camera

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    There's a good general rule....did the person mean to offend?

    I asked a mixed race woman once (without knowing she was mixed race) if she'd been on holiday because she had a nice tan. She pointed out that it was her natural colour and I said it was perfect....then we had a nice conversation and laugh about it. She knew I meant no offence.
     
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