Portsmouth have now gone into administration twice in three years and have just been deducted 10 points. Why then, when we went into administration, we were deducted 15 points !? This makes no sense to me and I would like an explanation from the FA regarding this; maybe they could give us back those 5 points which they owe us now...........
It was a deduction for exiting administration illegally, not for entering administration. That is why the punishment was different for us.
We actually got a 25 points reduction if you include the season before however we only entered administration the once.
Not really. As I recall there is an FA rule that all football debts must be paid first, before all others. We paid the taxman instead (I think it was so they would sign off the CVA, otherwise we were completely screwed). Seems the FA think they can make law that's more important than the law of the land. I think we might be the only team that's been clobbered by this.
Only for minor things like this. And thank you, whichever mod did that. It's brightened up my night-day transition.
what would be funnier is if a mod changed the title of one of your threads to make every word completely wrong...
Oh God. When ellandback reads this, I know that's exactly what he'll do! Wihch palyers argh Wranokc's favuorites?
Leeds went against the ridiculous FA policy of paying football creditors first, and the 15 points was voted for by the League chairmen to basically keep us in Lge One. I can still clearly remember that idiot from Gillingham smirking from ear to ear after he had voted for the -15. So what's going to happen in the future? When clubs go into admin with HMRC holding more than 75% of the debt and thereby forcing clubs to go against the football creditors rule, will we see a total of 25 points being deducted? Well, they made it law by voting against Leeds so it has to stand.
Boston were relegated an extra division for it. EDIT: You are the only Football League club to have not managed to get a CVA that meets the rules though, Boston had been relegated from L2 and it was the Conference that decided they'd bypass the Conference Premier and go straight to the Conference North for not having a CVA.
Lets hope we still hear the Pompey chimes next yearm in some league or other but they have brought this on themselves by paying exhorbitant wages one player probably Kitson who won,t be pklaying on Saturday ON 35K A WEEK.I wondered why Norris preferred Pompey to Leeds now I know I must say that our system is much better and for me to admit this takes a lot of heartache!
Pompey's ten point deduction is just the automatic one, they could still be deducted further points depending on how they end up exiting administration(if they manage it at all). They've already lost Huseklepp this morning(on loan to Birmingham) and I suspect they'll lose a few more during the next week. They're pretty ****ed, what ever way you look at it.
Article on clubs in admin over the years with a full list of clubs.... http://thisispop.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/football-clubs-in-administration-maps-and-stats/ I seem to remember either Rotherham or Bournemouth (or both ?) getting an additional points deduction in 2008 because it was the second time they'd been in administration. That list shows that Pompey have already been in admin twice before in 1999 and 2010 so this is the third time ! Although this is only the second time in the championship and there are different rules applied in the Prem.
If that's the Ipswich bid you're talking about they didn't, the players (there was another defender going with him) turned down the move, probably because of the pay cut they'd have to take to join another Championship club. If it was a bid you made I suspect it was turned down because Ipswich were offering more. In correction to my earlier post about you being the only FL club to have done it, Luton were also hit with 15 points for not having a CVA in accordance with the rules. Their 30 points was made up of 10 for paying bungs to agents, 15 for the CVA, and an additional 5 points for it being the third time in 10 years. (Pompey I guess will get away with it on the grounds the 1999 one is outside the 10 years) Bournemouth and Rotherham both had 17 points that year for failing to exit administration by the rules*. As it's bigger than your 15, I'm not sure if that was not having a CVA in place, or whether it was because they'd been in admin for a certain length of time without coming out (ie they were still in admin rather than had come out of admin incorrectly). There's a rule about not being in admin for over 12 months or starting two consecutive seasons in admin which might be the cause of their penalty. *Both clubs had the standard 10 points off the season before.
