Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Meanwhile, over this side of the Irish sea, our Government is recalling parliament from their 3 months holidays (bastards) on Monday to discuss the effects this will have on us. The Irish passport office in London is receiving thousands of applications from people in Britain for Irish passports. If you have a parent born on the island of Ireland North or South, you are automatically entitled to an Irish passport and in some cases, even a Grandparent (just ask Tony O' Cascarino). Another EU passport will entitle you to live and work in any EU country as well as entitle you to health benefits should you get sick somewhere on your holidays. You can have dual citizenship so your rights within the UK wouldn't change of you opted for a second passport. Some people might be interested in this if they are entitled.
 
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I'm not an old or poor voter, I'm not racist and I don't like Farage. I did vote to leave based on one point alone. I want to live in a democratic society that is not 'overseen' by unelected Eurocrats.
People like Juncker remind me of Sepp Blatter. Arrogant and out of touch with too much power. The EU will not survive without serious reform but people like him do not want that.
 
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rangercol said:
Were you surprised that Wales voted to leave Beth?
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Yes I was Col....it was a bit more patchy than rural England...but yes.Wales gets a lot of EU money...and they will actually miss it... South Wales steel redundancies and fishing will have had an effect.
Also the falling away of the traditional Labour vote too will have affected the result.....

The leave vote in Wales has actually taken away the power for independence that Scotland and Ireland are exerting as well... I must say...if you think leaving the EU will be bad for England (and you know I think it will) it will be worse for Wales.
Lack of EU subsidaries, the NHS there is worse than in England already....but the housing will be very cheap
 
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rangercol said:
What has struck me throughout this whole process is how the majority of remainers seemed to have been talking about money and their own financial situations.

Sometimes in life, one has to rise above these things and vote on a principal. I stated early on in this thread that I was willing to take a financial hit to vote on what I believed in.

Now we have voted to leave, many remainers are still whinging and moaning about their financial prospects outside the EU.

I voted out on a principal and I am very proud to have done so.
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That's a bit rich, Col. I fully believe that you voted on principle and you have understandably complained about Leave voters being painted with the racist brush (not that that has happened on here), yet now here you are suggesting that the majority of Remainers are just selfish whingers. I voted on principle too I'll have you know, and I resent the implication that I didn't.
 
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rangercol said:
What has struck me throughout this whole process is how the majority of remainers seemed to have been talking about money and their own financial situations.
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What some remain voters should have worked out is that the EU in geared up for big companies and are not interested in the little man. The democratic men in Brussels also look after Germany first so i couldn't understand that argument. My mate works for a German company who imports high-tech drugs to the UK. I can understand his fears but would they not want to sell to us?
 
sb_73 said:
I don't think 80% of the English voted to leave Ninesey. It was elderly, working class, UKIP supporting, disabled, secondary educated Christians wot dun it. The groups are all sub sets of each other. I'd draw a Venn diagram if I had the skills.

The elderly could suffer more than anyone else if the triple lock is removed on pensions or a few pension funds go tits up (I hope and think they won't, worse for those just coming up to retirement with commercial pensions which may be reduced). The younger age groups have a chance to see it through and frolic on the vast sunlit uplands which we have been promised.
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Well it's all here Stanos ( the same poll that those who blamed the 'old' people figures were taken from ) ...

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/How-the-UK-voted-Full-tables-1.pdf

I stand by my original statement and demand a venn diagram before I change it. :grin:
 
rangercol said:
What has struck me throughout this whole process is how the majority of remainers seemed to have been talking about money and their own financial situations.

Sometimes in life, one has to rise above these things and vote on a principal. I stated early on in this thread that I was willing to take a financial hit to vote on what I believed in.

Now we have voted to leave, many remainers are still whinging and moaning about their financial prospects outside the EU.

I voted out on a principal and I am very proud to have done so.
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brb said:
That about nails it for me <applause> Some young OUT voters have said exactly the same to me, they were undecided but because of the way the IN vote conducted themselves they voted OUT and the bitterness still continues from home and ABROAD. The IN voters were all about self, self, self. Thankfully I do know people that expected to lose money over voting OUT but were not thinking about themselves, but their children's, children, something I never ever heard mentioned by a remain campaigner.
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Come on lads, you can't have it both ways, complaining, justifiably, about all Brexiters being branded Little Englanders etc and then calling all Remainers selfish. I'm sure plenty on the remain side voted on the principle of international collaboration and cooperation in an increasingly complex world. I know I did, even though the EU is not a shining example of how to do it well. What the Brexit leaders need to do now is at least try to gain the trust of the 48% that they will get this thing done with the minimum pain and maximum efficiency so we can see the benefits promised for ourselves and our kids in the foreseable future. As it stands the divisions within the country appear deeper than the divisions between the UK and the EU, and that can't be good.
 
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finglasqpr said:
Meanwhile, over this side of the Irish sea, our Government is recalling parliament from their 3 months holidays (bastards) on Monday to discuss the effects this will have on us. The Irish passport office in London is receiving thousands of applications from people in Britain for Irish passports. If you have a parent born on the island of Ireland North or South, you are automatically entitled to an Irish passport and in some cases, even a Grandparent (just ask Tony O' Cascarino). Another EU passport will entitle you to live and work in any EU country as well as entitle you to health benefits should you get sick somewhere on your holidays. You can have dual citizenship so your rights within the UK wouldn't change of you opted for a second passport. Some people might be interested in this if they are entitled.
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My application is going in this week. :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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Just to back up my earlier point regarding people saying they would vote differently
Apparently Justine Greening MP as just tweeted say she was in and now she has come out. <sorry>
 
sb_73 said:
Come on lads, you can't have it both ways, complaining, justifiably, about all Brexiters being branded Little Englanders etc and then calling all Remainers selfish. I'm sure plenty on the remain side voted on the principle of international collaboration and cooperation in an increasingly complex world. I know I did, even though the EU is not a shining example of how to do it well. What the Brexit leaders need to do now is at least try to gain the trust of the 48% that they will get this thing done with the minimum pain and maximum efficiency so we can see the benefits promised for ourselves and our kids in the foreseable future. As it stands the divisions within the country appear deeper than the divisions between the UK and the EU, and that can't be good.
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Very good comment and not one that I would disagree with, so fair enough, but I suppose there is just a lot of bad feeling about at the moment on both sides and we are both prepared to fight our corner strongly if over exuberant at times..
 
QPR999 said:
Well it's all here Stanos ( the same poll that those who blamed the 'old' people figures were taken from ) ...

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/How-the-UK-voted-Full-tables-1.pdf

I stand by my original statement and demand a venn diagram before I change it. :grin:
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I'm not going through that mate! BBC has England Brexit vote at 53.8%, and I'd trust them more than Tory Lord Ashcroft.
QPR999 said:
My application is going in this week. :emoticon-0148-yes:
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You traitor O'Ninesy!
 
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ELLERS said:
Just to back up my earlier point regarding people saying they would vote differently
Apparently Justine Greening MP as just tweeted say she was in and now she has come out. <sorry>
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Tens of thousands of people have joined the Pride parade through central London.
 
kiwiqpr said:
Visa free holidays in nz
Government here already looking at trade deals
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This is what we need to do start trading more with Australia/New Zealand/Canada/India/South Africa. My Mum said in the old days New Zealand lamb was cheap and tasty but when we joined Europe we stitched them up.
 
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