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I'm sure you're not as stupid as Redwood, Uber. If it was just a question of more beds they could reopen those white elephant hospitals they knocked up during Covid. The problem is having sufficient staff to treat the people that occupy them. Plus there are tens of thousands of people well enough to leave hospital but have nowhere to go because social care is failing as badly as the NHS. Again due to lack of staff.

How can you be sure? At times I can be almost as stupid as Bracknell or whatever the **** he’s called.
 
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Google tells me that a hospital bed typically costs between £1,200-£1,600 to the NHS.

Allowing for employers NIC and pension contributions, that’s about 100 beds per Director of Lived Experience.
Is that the cost of a physical bed, ie the equipment?
 
I would really like to give you some insight about what it’s like out there….the delays…the frustration….the burn out from all concerned, but better I don’t go into details.

The system is broken….and sorry, I don’t have any useful answers
 
But don’t you see it as a panic that brought the rats out, who saw the chance of making a profit out of turmoil ?
They used us…they used the pandemic….they profited from the misery of many…..Mone is just one who got caught…..I’m absolutely sure there are many others

Been saying it for ages, they’ve just gotten bolder with it it, because they can get away with it, people excuse it, people ignore it, people are easily distracted by media trying to split the public and turn on each other trying to make big issues out of pretty much nothing. Wait for the investigation? <laugh> Nobody big has fallen in recent times over an investigation, we’ve not seen the full results of an investigation and we never will, Mone will be the sacrificial lamb, although she’ll have made her money so hardly facing hardship.
 
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Has anyone mentioned fairytale of New York yet this holiday season

I hear she got hit by a speedboat

The song features vocals from Kirsty MacColl, an English singer-songwriter who was killed 11 years ago - on December 18, 2000 - in Cozumel, Mexico. The story of Kirsty's death is heartbreaking. She died saving her son from an oncoming speedboat during a scuba diving trip.

https://www.cbc.ca/strombo/news/the-sad-tale-behind-fairytale-of-new-york-singers-death.html

Why did Fairytale of New York get Cancelled?

BBC Radio Solent's Alex Dyke tweeted that he wasn't comfortable with the song's lyrics, which include Pogues frontman Shane MacGowan calling MacColl an “old sl*t on junk”, and MacColl calling him in return a “cheap, lousy f*****”.Dec 4, 2019

Track remains an annual controversy-magnet due to its lyrics.

It was Christmas Eve babe
In the drunk tank
An old man said to me, won't see another one
And then he sang a song
The Rare Old Mountain Dew
I turned my face away
And dreamed about you
Got on a lucky one
Came in eighteen to one
I've got a feeling
This year's for me and you
So happy Christmas
I love you baby
I can see a better time
When all our dreams come true
They've got cars big as bars
They've got rivers of gold
But the wind goes right through you
It's no place for the old
When you first took my hand
On a cold Christmas Eve
You promised me
Broadway was waiting for me
You were handsome
You were pretty
Queen of New York City
When the band finished playing
They howled out for more
Sinatra was swinging
All the drunks they were singing
We kissed on a corner
Then danced through the night
The boys of the NYPD choir
Were singing Galway Bay
And the bells were ringing out
For Christmas day
You're a bum
You're a punk
You're an old slut on junk
Lying there almost dead on a drip in that bed
You scumbag, you maggot
You cheap lousy ***got
Happy Christmas your arse
I pray God it's our last
The boys of the NYPD choir
Still singing Galway Bay
And the bells are ringing out
For Christmas day
I could have been someone
Well so could anyone
You took my dreams from me
When I first found you
I kept them with me babe
I put them with my own
Can't make it all alone
I've built my dreams around you
The boys of the NYPD choir
Still singing Galway Bay
And the bells are ringing out
For Christmas day


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Songwriters: Jem Finer / Shane Patrick Lysaght Macgowan
Fairytale of New York lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Universal Music Publishing Group

 

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The song features vocals from Kirsty MacColl, an English singer-songwriter who was killed 11 years ago - on December 18, 2000 - in Cozumel, Mexico. The story of Kirsty's death is heartbreaking. She died saving her son from an oncoming speedboat during a scuba diving trip.

https://www.cbc.ca/strombo/news/the-sad-tale-behind-fairytale-of-new-york-singers-death.html

Why did Fairytale of New York get Cancelled?

BBC Radio Solent's Alex Dyke tweeted that he wasn't comfortable with the song's lyrics, which include Pogues frontman Shane MacGowan calling MacColl an “old sl*t on junk”, and MacColl calling him in return a “cheap, lousy f*****”.Dec 4, 2019

Track remains an annual controversy-magnet due to its lyrics.

It was Christmas Eve babe
In the drunk tank
An old man said to me, won't see another one
And then he sang a song
The Rare Old Mountain Dew
I turned my face away
And dreamed about you
Got on a lucky one
Came in eighteen to one
I've got a feeling
This year's for me and you
So happy Christmas
I love you baby
I can see a better time
When all our dreams come true
They've got cars big as bars
They've got rivers of gold
But the wind goes right through you
It's no place for the old
When you first took my hand
On a cold Christmas Eve
You promised me
Broadway was waiting for me
You were handsome
You were pretty
Queen of New York City
When the band finished playing
They howled out for more
Sinatra was swinging
All the drunks they were singing
We kissed on a corner
Then danced through the night
The boys of the NYPD choir
Were singing Galway Bay
And the bells were ringing out
For Christmas day
You're a bum
You're a punk
You're an old slut on junk
Lying there almost dead on a drip in that bed
You scumbag, you maggot
You cheap lousy ***got
Happy Christmas your arse
I pray God it's our last
The boys of the NYPD choir
Still singing Galway Bay
And the bells are ringing out
For Christmas day
I could have been someone
Well so could anyone
You took my dreams from me
When I first found you
I kept them with me babe
I put them with my own
Can't make it all alone
I've built my dreams around you
The boys of the NYPD choir
Still singing Galway Bay
And the bells are ringing out
For Christmas day


LyricFind
Songwriters: Jem Finer / Shane Patrick Lysaght Macgowan
Fairytale of New York lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Universal Music Publishing Group
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One of my favourite gigs of all time. 19mins in for the above lyrics! If you are going to question lyrics in music then I guess there will not be much left to listen too. I don't think either Shane or Kirsty seem to mind much in this video!
 
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It’s difficult to disagree with Hitchens’ position on the current strikes and his criticism of the government’s stance on this, particularly after they’ve spaffed billions on the Covid panic.

The circumstances of Zara Aleeva’s murder are appalling, but how many times have we (and will we) hear similar?

This country is pretty ****ed in just about every aspect one cares to examine. It’s been ****ed by well-intentioned liberalism, a desire to be popular and compassionate and a lack of any real opposition to the steady inexorable ill-judged policies of politicians of all liveries. All too easy to blame the B-word, but any idea can be made successful with the right execution by sensible, intelligent and moral people.
 
Well just finished a meeting concerning the upcoming strike on Wednesday and proud of my Union in the fact that massive plans are in place that staff will definitely be responding to the most needy during this time, and will absolutely be responding to life saving emergencies as soon as they come in.
Please don’t believe the upcoming lies, that I’m sure will be forthcoming from the right wing press that we are going to let people die while we stand idle on the picket lines……this certainly will not happen.
 
Well just finished a meeting concerning the upcoming strike on Wednesday and proud of my Union in the fact that massive plans are in place that staff will definitely be responding to the most needy during this time, and will absolutely be responding to life saving emergencies as soon as they come in.
Please don’t believe the upcoming lies, that I’m sure will be forthcoming from the right wing press that we are going to let people die while we stand idle on the picket lines……this certainly will not happen.
So are the people in the control centres not striking, so they can triage the calls effectively? Another thing which will not be noted, I assume it’s the whole service, not just the paramedics in vans, who are in dispute?
 
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So are the people in the control centres not striking, so they can triage the calls effectively? Another thing which will not be noted, I assume it’s the whole service, not just the paramedics in vans, who are in dispute?

As far as I’m aware it’s staff on the road mate….EMTs, AAPs and Paramedics. I think the call takers will be working normally and calls will be triaged