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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%
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Agree with your sentiments about Mone, and I suspect this is just the beginning of looking into her financial affairs. She's no toff btw. Glasgow working class. But there must be questions as to why she was appointed to the Lords by the Tories.

Dunno what her background has to do with it Goldie. If she’s a greedy **** who is robbing off the country with the aid of her Tory mates then she’s not a nice person….in fact it makes it worse in my eyes, as she really should know better…..
Sadly she is almost certainly just the tip of the iceberg
 
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Agree with your sentiments about Mone, and I suspect this is just the beginning of looking into her financial affairs. She's no toff btw. Glasgow working class. But there must be questions as to why she was appointed to the Lords by the Tories.

Just a question for you Goldie ? Does this not make you ****ing angry ? Or do you just think it’s a fact a life and we should just live with it ?
Personally I im ****ing incandescent with rage (obviously I hide it well) and the pure disgusting, obscene injustice of it all blows my tiny mind.
Doesn’t it disgust you that people like Mone, and many like her, made profit out of a tragedy that befell our nation…while people like me literally put our lives on the line using ****ing bin bags for aprons and using masks that snapped ?

Yes I’m tired, yes I’m in mourning…but yes I’m ****ing angry…..so, so ****ing angry. And I don’t get why others aren’t as angry as me.
 
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Just a question for you Goldie ? Does this not make you ****ing angry ? Or do yo just think it’s a fact a life and we should just live with it ?
Personally I im ****ing incandescent with rage (obviously I hide it well) and the pure disgusting, obscene injustice of it all blows my tiny mind.
Doesn’t it disgust you that people like Mone, and many like her, made profit out of a tragedy that befell our nation…while people like me literally put our lives on the line using ****ing bin bags for aprons and using masks that snapped ?

Yeas I’m tired, yes I’m in mourning…but yes I’m ****ing angry…..so, so ****ing angry. And I don’t get why others aren’t as angry as me.

I feel like you do about, Mone, Stainsey, and her affairs will be investigated. She's already stood down from the Lords. And wherever there is possible fraud relating to COVID, must be investigated. On the other side, it must be remembered that govt and opposition were in a panic at the start of the pandemic and, at times, speed may have meant corners were cut. There's currently an inquiry, so we'll see
 
I feel like you do about, Mone, Stainsey, and her affairs will be investigated. She's already stood down from the Lords. And wherever there is possible fraud relating to COVID, must be investigated. On the other side, it must be remembered that govt and opposition were in a panic at the start of the pandemic and, at times, speed may have meant corners were cut. There's currently an inquiry, so we'll see

But don’t you see it as a panic that brought the rats out, who saw the chance of making a profit out of turmoil ?
They used us…they used the pandemic….they profited from the misery of many…..Mone is just one who got caught…..I’m absolutely sure there are many others
 
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But don’t you see it as a panic that brought the rats out, who saw the chance of making a profit out of turmoil ?
They used us…they used the pandemic….they profited from the misery of many…..Mone is just one who got caught…..I’m absolutely sure there are many others

I agree, there will be others who took advantage.The Pandemic Inquiry is sitting at the moment under Judge Hallett, and equipment procurement is one of the issues that will be investigated.
 
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But don’t you see it as a panic that brought the rats out, who saw the chance of making a profit out of turmoil ?
They used us…they used the pandemic….they profited from the misery of many…..Mone is just one who got caught…..I’m absolutely sure there are many others
It makes me seriously pissed off too Stainsy but I'm sure nothing will happen to her or any others who literally raped their own country during a pandemic. I say this because I reckon half of the government were either involved or at the least knew about what was going on. We live in times where the powers that be are more bothered about stripping some poor disabled person of their pip award than recovering millions in fraud from their fellow members
 
Just a question for you Goldie ? Does this not make you ****ing angry ? Or do you just think it’s a fact a life and we should just live with it ?
Personally I im ****ing incandescent with rage (obviously I hide it well) and the pure disgusting, obscene injustice of it all blows my tiny mind.
Doesn’t it disgust you that people like Mone, and many like her, made profit out of a tragedy that befell our nation…while people like me literally put our lives on the line using ****ing bin bags for aprons and using masks that snapped ?

Yes I’m tired, yes I’m in mourning…but yes I’m ****ing angry…..so, so ****ing angry. And I don’t get why others aren’t as angry as me.
Bourgeoisie vs Proletariat mate, Marx was spot on which is very sad as It was written over 150yrs ago. The opportunity for change was Corbyn unfortunately people bottled it, so unfortunately Staines I think your pain and anger will not go away anytime soon
 
Google tells me that a hospital bed typically costs between £1,200-£1,600 to the NHS.

Allowing for employers NIC and pension contributions, that’s about 100 beds per Director of Lived Experience.
I'm sure you're not as stupid as Redwood, Uber. If it was just a question of more beds they could reopen those white elephant hospitals they knocked up during Covid. The problem is having sufficient staff to treat the people that occupy them. Plus there are tens of thousands of people well enough to leave hospital but have nowhere to go because social care is failing as badly as the NHS. Again due to lack of staff.