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So the rail strikes are for better pay and conditions?! I thought a high wage economy was exactly what the fat lying twat has been banging on about for ages.... or is it only certain people who can get it.
 
I really think that Transport Secretary Keir Starmer and Prime Minister Keir Starmer should have done more to prevent this rail strike.
 
I really think that Transport Secretary Keir Starmer and Prime Minister Keir Starmer should have done more to prevent this rail strike.

Despite the cut and paste tweets by Tories no one has heard of weirdly blaming Labour/Starmer, 2/3 of people believe the government hasn’t done enough to prevent this happening. Given they’ve done absolutely **** all to prevent it happening I’m not sure what the other 1/3 are reading in The Express.
 
Despite the cut and paste tweets by Tories no one has heard of weirdly blaming Labour/Starmer, 2/3 of people believe the government hasn’t done enough to prevent this happening. Given they’ve done absolutely **** all to prevent it happening I’m not sure what the other 1/3 are reading in The Express.

It's not so much that they haven't done enough to prevent it, they actively wanted it.
 
The government put billions and billions of pounds into the railways during the pandemic to keep them going.
Apparently though, it was the government that called this politicised strike and not the Unions.

****ing Tories.......

All hail Arthur Scar.....no wait, Mick Lynch.
What a hero.
 
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The government put billions and billions of pounds into the railways during the pandemic to keep them going.
Apparently though, it was the government that called this politicised strike and not the Unions.

****ing Tories.......

All hail Arthur Scar.....no wait, Mick Lynch.
What a hero.

Yeah you may have mentioned this already. You may have to wheel out this same logic as other organisations commence their own strikes.

Congratulations to the government on ensuring those massive dividends got paid.

Fuel up another 5p over the road yesterday and inflation pushing double-digits. People can’t be expected to just suck up rapidly declining living standards.
 
The government put billions and billions of pounds into the railways during the pandemic to keep them going.
Apparently though, it was the government that called this politicised strike and not the Unions.

****ing Tories.......

All hail Arthur Scar.....no wait, Mick Lynch.
What a hero.

Railway staff continued to work during the pandemic, providing a vital service whilst most others were paid to stay at home. This strike is only politicised inasmuch as the government wanted it to happen. Do you blame Starmer?
 
The Times, not a Tory newspaper, coming out firmly against the strike. Government must not give in, as a string of striking occupations are queuing behind, and inflation will be sent skywards with disasterous results.

I'm all in favour at looking at railways as a whole to see how money is being spent by management, dividends paid, salaries and bonuses paid to senior staff.

Equally, it's becoming increasingly clear that there are some Stone Age practices still in the railways, that the RMT union is determined to keep.

Here's one on worker breaks - there's an archaic rule that states that if a worker speaks to a manager during a break, even if just to say Hello, the break must start again, right from the beginning.

Sundays is the biggest growth area on the railways, yet railway workers don't have to work on Sundays. When England played on a Sunday in the World Cup, there were 170 cancellations on Northern Rail alone due to staff not working.

Unions insist on sending a whole team of workers out on every job, even if it's minor, and could be done by a much smaller number. Changing a plug socket could take a whole, full team of men. There are also restricted practices between London stations within a mile of one another.

The unions also insist that workers cannot be trained in multiple skills.

The rail industry simply has to modernise or die slowly, and hopefully at least, the strikes will put a spotlight on management and union.
 
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