Off Topic The Politics Thread

[ELLERS]

Forgive me, but I can't take any report seriously from an unknown website called "Joe"!

It’s an non starter from the left. I won’t waste my time with this rubbish. They should call it Joe Blogs.

 

[bobmid]

Amazingly Labour now 13 points behind in latest poll and Boris's popularity increasing, do they know something we don't?...

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It wont be labour that get rid of the horrible, lying, corrupt, deceitful Johnson unfortunately. It will have to come from within the Tory party.

 

[bobmid]

It’s an non starter from the left. I won’t waste my time with this rubbish. They should call it Joe Blogs.

Excellent response. Your values speak volumes!

 

[bobmid]

Any politician accused of misleading parliment or the public should be investigated. If a court rules this to be the case then surely they should resign. Isnt that what some are calling for with Sturgeon?

 

[ELLERS]

Understood. Point taken. It's a bit like finding the source is the Daily Express, one of the right wing blogs which follow the inspired ramblings of our Tommy Robinson or finding that it's one of Ellers' mates of whom there seem to be a lot who are in the know and 100% reliable and told him only yesterday....................' Now that Wills has revealed some more conventional sources do you want to have another think about it?

Don’t mention me in your rubbish ramblings.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

I’d already posted those sources well before he posted, so he’d have been fully aware of them, odd that he chose to turn a blind eye to them, very odd

Understood. Point taken. It's a bit like finding the source is the Daily Express, one of the right wing blogs which follow the inspired ramblings of our Tommy Robinson or finding that it's one of Ellers' mates of whom there seem to be a lot who are in the know and 100% reliable and told him only yesterday....................' Now that Wills has revealed some more conventional sources do you want to have another think about it?

Had a look at the BBC report. It seems that in the heat of fighting the virus, some contracts to third parties were published a week or two late, and when Boris told Parliament that all contracts were available for inspection, 100 out of 700 odd were yet to be published, but were subsequently published.

So there was a breach of regulations and Boris did ( quite possibly inadvertently) mislead Parliament. The question is, it was in the middle of a national crisis, should some leeway be given on timing breaches? I'll let you lefties answer that, but I don't see a scandal or a resigning issue here.

 

[bobmid]

Had a look at the BBC report. It seems that in the heat of fighting the virus, some contracts to third parties were published a week or two late, and when Boris told Parliament that all contracts were available for inspection, 100 out of 700 odd were yet to be published, but were subsequently published.

So there was a breach of regulations and Boris did ( quite possibly inadvertently) mislead Parliament. The question is, it was in the middle of a national crisis, should some leeway be given on timing breaches? I'll let you lefties answer that, but I don't see a scandal or a resigning issue here.

Have the remaining 100 or so been published? It's not really about being left, middle or right. It's about standards, values and morals. Could Sturgeons memory issues be excused due to being in a national crisis? But full credit for giving your opinion mate, I respect you for that, unlike your right wing fanatic pal Ellers who just doesnt have the balls to do so.

 

[Steelmonkey]

Have the remaining 100 or so been published? It's not really about being left, middle or right. It's about standards, values and morals. Could Sturgeons memory issues be excused due to being in a national crisis?

Seeing that her memory issues relate to 2018, I don't think she'll get away with that as an excuse!

Feeling is she'll get away with it, but there has been some major damage done to her credibility, and it'll be interesting to see how much the opposition parties use this in the upcoming election campaign.

I've no doubt the SNP will end up with a majority, polling at 52% apparently (down from 54%) so it'll take a concerted effort from the other parties to bring them down.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Have the remaining 100 or so been published? It's not really about being left, middle or right. It's about standards, values and morals. Could Sturgeons memory issues be excused due to being in a national crisis? But full credit for giving your opinion mate, I respect you for that, unlike your right wing fanatic pal Ellers who just doesnt have the balls to do so.

I read the BBC report as stating the 100 contracts were not published at the time Boris made the statement to Parliament. I assume they are up for inspection now

 

[bobmid]

Seeing that her memory issues relate to 2018, I don't think she'll get away with that as an excuse!

Feeling is she'll get away with it, but there has been some major damage done to her credibility, and it'll be interesting to see how much the opposition parties use this in the upcoming election campaign.

I've no doubt the SNP will end up with a majority, polling at 52% apparently (down from 54%) so it'll take a concerted effort from the other parties to bring them down.

She could say she was being asked to remember during the middle of a pandemic. That should do the trick

 

[ELLERS]

Had a look at the BBC report. It seems that in the heat of fighting the virus, some contracts to third parties were published a week or two late, and when Boris told Parliament that all contracts were available for inspection, 100 out of 700 odd were yet to be published, but were subsequently published.

So there was a breach of regulations and Boris did ( quite possibly inadvertently) mislead Parliament. The question is, it was in the middle of a national crisis, should some leeway be given on timing breaches? I'll let you lefties answer that, but I don't see a scandal or a resigning issue here.

It’s a rubbish attempt to discredit Boris and the Tories now they have a 13 point lead in the polls and people are happy with the vaccine roll out. At the time they were running around trying to get PPP which the whole country demand and if some contracts happen to be Tory members then so be it. It’s just a lefty storm in a tea cup.

 

[Stroller]

Nothing to see here, move on.

''I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

 

[bobmid]

It’s a rubbish attempt to discredit Boris and the Tories now they have a 13 point lead in the polls and people are happy with the vaccine roll out. At the time they were running around trying to get PPP which the whole country demand and if some contracts happen to be Tory members then so be it. It’s just a lefty storm in a tea cup.

Superb

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

She could say she was being asked to remember during the middle of a pandemic. That should do the trick

Except that the events she "forgot" happened a year before the pandemic started

 

[ELLERS]

I put it down to the fact that the Tories are riding high in the polls and should be. Starmer is a dud. The Kranky has shown her true colours and should resign.
The EU has again shown its true colours. The city has had some fab news with investment. The pound is up. The vaccine roll out is amazing.
So what do these lefties do....
Move on.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I put it down to the fact that the Tories are riding high in the polls and should be. Starmer is a dud. The Kranky has shown her true colours and should resign.
The EU has again shown its true colours. The city has had some fab news with investment. The pound is up. The vaccine roll out is amazing.
So what do these lefties do....
Move on.

Even if that is all true, and frankly much of it isn’t, it’s a bit crass to pretend corruption that led to the deaths of innocent people including medical staff should just be ignored.

 

[Willhoops]

Whilst people will continue to make excuses they will continue to take the piss and rob this nation blind. There literally is no hope.

 

[ELLERS]

Even if that is all true, and frankly much of it isn’t, it’s a bit crass to pretend corruption that led to the deaths of innocent people including medical staff should just be ignored.

eer it’s all correct. Maybe it’s you who is ill informed Watford? I think if you look back I was the first to post about the pay for medical staff.
As for the deaths, you need to read up a bit more as many factors that caused deaths were beyond the governments control. But I am sure a few will blame them for 120k deaths just not normal people.

 

[Willhoops]

eer it’s all correct. Maybe it’s you who is ill informed Watford? I think if you look back I was the first to post about the pay for medical staff.
As for the deaths, you need to read up a bit more as many factors that caused deaths were beyond the governments control. But I am sure a few will blame them for 120k deaths just not normal people.

Think I covered this not that long ago quite well, anyone who thinks the government is in part responsible for 120k deaths is about as crazy as someone who thinks they aren’t, in part responsible for any.

 

[bobmid]

I read the BBC report as stating the 100 contracts were not published at the time Boris made the statement to Parliament. I assume they are up for inspection now

Would that lead to a conclusion that he mislead parliment then? We should all be able to see which friend of government was made an instant millionaire with our tax paying money then. Should be interesting