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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Meanwhile over in the US of A:

Rudy Guiliani is being sued by the producers of the voting machines. Can't wait to see how much support he receives from ex-president Trump he receives now......be lucky if he gets a phone call stating "you're a great guy Rudy and you won't let them beat you".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-55801819

I normally don't enjoy feasting on other people demise but with Trump & Rudy on the menu, l'm thinking of going back for seconds.
 
I'm reading that heavy tariffs are being placed on EU wine coming into the UK. In the long run, this will only hurt EU member states surely. UK consumers will choose South African, South American, Australian wines etc before EU and very good they are too.
 
I'm reading that heavy tariffs are being placed on EU wine coming into the UK. In the long run, this will only hurt EU member states surely. UK consumers will choose South African, South American, Australian wines etc before EU and very good they are too.
I am a classic French wine drinker and they really do have some of the best wines... However I am also not stupid when it comes to paying for a decent bottle. As you said wine from other countries are really moving up the ladder. Even the UK is starting to produce some good stuff. The answer to your post Goldie is that people will often go for the cheaper product when money is tight.
 
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I am a classic French wine drinker and they really do have some of the best wines... However I am also not stupid when it comes to paying for a decent bottle. As you said wine from other countries are really moving up the ladder. Even the UK is starting to produce some good stuff. The answer to your post Goldie is that people will often go for the cheaper product when money is tight.

French wines are fabulous at the top end, but if you're buying Latour or Cheval Blanc, you aren't going to be phased by an extra two or three quid for tariffs on the price of the bottle. It's at the cheap end where it hurts, and I don't think cheap French wine compares well with wines from the New World anyway
 
French wines are fabulous at the top end, but if you're buying Latour or Cheval Blanc, you aren't going to be phased by an extra two or three quid for tariffs on the price of the bottle. It's at the cheap end where it hurts, and I don't think cheap French wine compares well with wines from the New World anyway
agree, the lower the quality French wine is no better than some others.
 
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French wines are fabulous at the top end, but if you're buying Latour or Cheval Blanc, you aren't going to be phased by an extra two or three quid for tariffs on the price of the bottle. It's at the cheap end where it hurts, and I don't think cheap French wine compares well with wines from the New World anyway

Not every market is as liquid as the wine market.
 
I'm reading that heavy tariffs are being placed on EU wine coming into the UK. In the long run, this will only hurt EU member states surely. UK consumers will choose South African, South American, Australian wines etc before EU and very good they are too.

Will probably have an impact on our whisky and gin exports though, and although the US and Japan are the biggest importers of Scotch this will have an effect on the sector. Are they big whisky drinkers on the continent?
 
Will probably have an impact on our whisky and gin exports though, and although the US and Japan are the biggest importers of Scotch this will have an effect on the sector. Are they big whisky drinkers on the continent?

Actually, the big tariffs on Scotch are the US tariffs - 25%. This was imposed on the EU by Trump when we were still in the EU as a result of a trade dispute. I read that it's possible this will be lifted for the UK now we're out.
 
Actually, the big tariffs on Scotch are the US tariffs - 25%. This was imposed on the EU by Trump when we were still in the EU as a result of a trade dispute. I read that it's possible this will be lifted for the UK now we're out.

Some good news then if true - is that because the US are lifting the tariffs imposed by Trump now he's gone, or are the tariffs still there but getting lifted as we're not in the EU?
 
I'm reading that heavy tariffs are being placed on EU wine coming into the UK. In the long run, this will only hurt EU member states surely. UK consumers will choose South African, South American, Australian wines etc before EU and very good they are too.
you don't want to be wasting your money on that Australian muck
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Some good news then if true - is that because the US are lifting the tariffs imposed by Trump now he's gone, or are the tariffs still there but getting lifted as we're not in the EU?

Both. Now we are out of the EU, Liz Truss has lifted tariffs on some US goods and Biden's administration has made noises about reaching a reciprocal arrangement with the UK
 
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As EU Turns Insular, UK Programme Helps World Fight New Variants




As EU Turns Insular, UK Programme Helps World Fight New Variants



The EU’s increasingly nationalist, insular vaccination policy stands in even starker contrast to the UK’s approach this morning, as Britain launches a new drive to support the rest of the world in finding and identifying Covid-19 variants. With Genome sequencing being one of this country’s pandemic success stories – having carried out more than half of the world’s tests for new variants – the Department of Health today launched the “New Variant Assessment Platform” to provide early warning of new mutations that could endanger public health.

Countries who want help “will be offered UK capacity to analyse new strains” and work alongside Public Health England, NHS Test and Trace and academic partners. Not a good day for dogmatic Remainers who want to believe Brexit will bring an end to British internationalism…
 
I'm reading that heavy tariffs are being placed on EU wine coming into the UK. In the long run, this will only hurt EU member states surely. UK consumers will choose South African, South American, Australian wines etc before EU and very good they are too.

Well off remainers will be all pompous about this.
Most of us couldn't care less where the wine comes from as long as we like it.
I'm very fond of South American and South African wine myself.
 
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Always buy the best French wine you can afford unless you’re fervently patriotic in which case buy the finest wines of Kent.

As a pompous, well-off (not really) Remainer and a fully-fledged member of the metropolitan elite, I have to admit to having a had a bottle of Kentish 'champagne' on Christmas day. Jolly good it was, too.
 
As a pompous, well-off (not really) Remainer and a fully-fledged member of the metropolitan elite, I have to admit to having a had a bottle of Kentish 'champagne' on Christmas day. Jolly good it was, too.

I’d try it but I have to pass the French stuff to get to the sushi counter at Waitrose anyway.
 
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