Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%
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Starmer has really got some knickers in a twist today hey. It amazes me what actually gets people wound up in life. You should be furious that people are dying and have died due to lies and incompetence. You should be furious that you were sold a world beating test and trace system costing billions of our money, gone to a private company and that its ****ing ****!
 
This is classic gold tonight. I think it's all hands on deck to protect Llama... sorry Starmer
 
But no you're furious because someone said to follow the science! Did you get this furious when we were told we were following the science before? Maybe it is affecting peoples mental health!
 
Maybe that's why they keep saying 'following the science' and not "the Economy'. :emoticon-0100-smile

Sage is made up of scientists, health professionals and academics. I don't think there's an economist among them, so I don't have a great deal of faith in Whitty's assurances.

If the government had followed SAGE's advice and gone for the circuit-break, would you two be blowing your tops at Johnson in the same way you are at Starmer?
 
If the government had followed SAGE's advice and gone for the circuit-break, would you two be blowing your tops at Johnson in the same way you are at Starmer?

Personally, I'd be saying that another national lockdown - of unknown duration - was a mistake. There are large parts of the country in the south - London excepted - where the covid growth rate is minimal. How does it help to shut down all their businesses?
 
What I would like to know is that if Sir Keir is following the science why did the WHO say lockdowns don't work?
 
Personally, I'd be saying that another national lockdown - of unknown duration - was a mistake. There are large parts of the country in the south - London excepted - where the covid growth rate is minimal. How does it help to shut down all their businesses?

A slightly more measured response than those you and Ellers have made towards Starmer.

No one's talking about an open-ended lockdown. Two or three weeks is what SAGE recommended and Starmer has backed.
 
A slightly more measured response than those you and Ellers have made towards Starmer.

No one's talking about an open-ended lockdown. Two or three weeks is what SAGE recommended and Starmer has backed.

The only other element I'd added for Starmer was opportunism, and that is my belief. He has to show to his MP's that he's not rubberstamping the government, so he's chosen the first opportunity to do this.

The problem is, if the circuit break isn't working in three weeks, the scientists may well say we must give it longer. I can't see them saying - give up
 
A slightly more measured response than those you and Ellers have made towards Starmer.

No one's talking about an open-ended lockdown. Two or three weeks is what SAGE recommended and Starmer has backed.
Don't have a go at me because your pin-up boy has cocked up big time. Remember it was you who has u-turned over lockdown as col pointed out.
 
Ah bless you are all frantically trying to defend this... It really makes me smile at the panic. :emoticon-0100-smile
He is trending under 3 different things and none are positive.

Just debunking some fake news, mate. If you want to hammer Labour/Starmer when we have such world-beating death and economic decline then at least do it with something accurate.
 
Just debunking some fake news, mate. If you want to hammer Labour/Starmer when we have such world-beating death and economic decline then at least do it with something accurate.
you know he has cocked up Watford. I will enjoy this moment. :emoticon-0100-smile