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I certainly don't tolerate corruption. Sleaze was on of the factors that brought down Majors government and right to. But it has to be proved to a reasonable standard. If Johnson's government is corrupt, it will fall.
Incompetence, sure, but at times of a worldwide pandemic which is aberrational, you can measure it using other countries' governments as a yardstick. If they all make the same mistake based in advice of the main body of scientists, it probably isn't incompetent
Not tonight bob I have a call to make to a friend who is at a low point. But briefly, they have many cock-ups some on Brexit, during the pandemic and a few other things. I actually describe my favourite MP as a 'f22ker idiot". I have had disagreements over the years with party people.
Fair enoughNot tonight bob I have a call to make to a friend who is at a low point. But briefly, they have many cock-ups some on Brexit, during the pandemic and a few other things. I actually describe my favourite MP as a 'f22ker idiot". I have had disagreements over the years with party people.
I suppose that works if every country makes the same mistakes. Some have dealt with this far better with better leadership. I know a few countries have a 10pm cufew for hospitality but there is no science involved in that restriction. What we do know is that these local restrictions are just not working. There are many factors involved for this, all roads really lead back to the powers that be. Trust in government, especially people like Hancock is little to nothing. The trust has to be localised and not privatised. Our whole reopening of the economy was based on a test and trace system. Until that is working properley then we wont be able to try control the virus. That is and was the governments strategy. The billions paid to these private companies who subcontract to subcontractors is just wasted money that should be sent to local councils to set their own systems up. This is a royal **** up, costing billions. They need to learn and learn fast. These restrictions are failing.
My wife's friend has been instructed to isolate via the app. No information provided as to why, where or when. She has a job, childcare etc to sort out. She contacted the test and trace team and was told she was in her local Sainsburys where she was near someone who had tested positive. She cant believe it, she's not been in sainsburys (over 4 miles away) for years. Quite pathetic really. Obviously she wont be isolating based on false information.
To be honest Bob, the vast majority of what our resident racist grass posts is complete and utter bullshit.
He’s an odd character for sure and him having me on ignore is a breath of fresh air.
On a different note, there is a funny meme doing the rounds with Donald bouncing around a classroom on one of those space hoppers and getting upset when they tell him to stop.
You prefer racist Abbott ones don’t you ?
mmm I have had and seen similar experiences. According to the bods on Sky it's pointless checking in with that sign thing as on one particular day only one person was notified with 1.4m checkings? The sad thing is that pubs must have the sign up (it's illegal not to?) they need to sort it out as it does work if used properly.
MBE for Marcus Rashford for services to shaming the government into feeding vulnerable kids.
Doubt we have the prison capacity for that. You’re lucky the case got heard at all frankly such is the backlog your lot have made happen.
Good post, Bob. I agree about the need for government to get their act together on test and trace. As to going forward, there are increasingly two vocal camps in the UK, each supported by scientists. The first supports the health-first, restriction based policy of the government. And the other is the economy first, herd immunity group. Whichever way the government goes, it will upset the opposing group. There isn't a large country in Europe that has this under control. Even Germany's graph of notified cases is shooting up. I'd be in favour of placing greater responsibility on local leaders in the North, where the virus is spreading fast in the UK. People may listen to them rather than Hancock. Either way, individuals, and the way they behave, are relevant in the spread of the virus.
This is why I think restrictions in Scotland are being adhered to, as opposed to the areas in Northern England that I've been to recently. Disagree as much as you like, but Sturgeon has been at every single briefing since this began and has shown some decent leadership - throwing a different member of the cabinet at daily briefings in Downing Street doesn't help to reinforce the message - couple this with the multiple cock-ups that they have been involved in and it's not difficult to see why people are ignoring their message. Localising control of this would be a move in the right direction in my opinion. Trust in Westminster has been so damaged over the last couple of years - regionalised governance could be the way to redress this, keeping such matters as defence etc at Westminster