Off Topic The Politics Thread

[Star of David Bardsley]

So can we find out why Boris and other conservatives are allowed to do a complete u-turn on Brexit but when it's anyone in Labour it's completely different and SLIMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’d rather find out how our de facto over 40000 deaths (new ONS figures out today for deaths up to April 13th) adds up to an “apparent success”.

And maybe what’s in the Russia Report.

And maybe the minutes of the recent SAGE meetings.

And why Ben Warner was there and why his brother won a lucrative NHS contract recently.

And why 80 (again, realistically far more) NHS staff are dying.

And why 26000 people are being tested a day.

 

[Willhoops]

I’d rather find out how our de facto over 40000 deaths (new ONS figures out today for deaths up to April 13th) adds up to an “apparent success”.

And maybe what’s in the Russia Report.

And maybe the minutes of the recent SAGE meetings.

And why Ben Warner was there and why his brother won a lucrative NHS contract recently.

And why 80 (again, realistically far more) NHS staff are dying.

And why 26000 people are being tested a day.

Come on Watford you really need to get over Brexit.. Corbyn unelectable, the media said so, not that I listen to the media in fact I've never heard of it, and I heard from everyone that Starmer uses union jacks as toilet paper and has a string on illegitimate children he won't even tell people how many which makes him unelectable it would be like electing Harold Shipman... Boris's kids? zzzz you need to get over brexit

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Come on Watford you really need to get over Brexit.. Corbyn unelectable, the media said so, not that I listen to the media in fact I've never heard of it, and I heard from everyone that Starmer uses union jacks as toilet paper and has a string on illegitimate children he won't even tell people how many which makes him unelectable it would be like electing Harold Shipman... Boris's kids? zzzz you need to get over brexit

Did you hear this on the radio?

 

[Willhoops]

Did you hear this on the radio?

And confirmed by all my many friends they have access to the correct data and very much in the know

 

[bobmid]

And confirmed by all my many friends they have access to the correct data and very much in the know

Ellers thinks the radio just talks to him alone, hence his amount of friends that have done absolutely everything!

 

[bobmid]

He definitely has a boner for Starmer, he cant stop talking about him

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

He definitely has a boner for Starmer, he cant stop talking about him

We should all be happy there’s a stronger opposition unless you’re that entrenched you’d rather have something akin to a dictatorship. I still don’t think it’s possible to sway enough people. In fact Boris could probably be caught shagging the corpse of Thatcher and get a boost in the polls such is the fanatical devotion but I’m glad Labour have gone down this route and given themselves a chance.

 

[ELLERS]

We should all be happy there’s a stronger opposition unless you’re that entrenched you’d rather have something akin to a dictatorship. I still don’t think it’s possible to sway enough people. In fact Boris could probably be caught shagging the corpse of Thatcher and get a boost in the polls such is the fanatical devotion but I’m glad Labour have gone down this route and given themselves a chance.

As I said Watford you are all upset that Labour has chosen another turkey.

 

[ELLERS]

do you vote for your local mp or do you vote for a party

Good question... Would I vote for my MP if he was Labour... no, because that would help Labour get in?
This country has already been occupied by a Labour government and hopefully, we won't see it again, or a least for many years. They won't get in with Starmer anyway.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

As I said Watford you are all upset that Labour has chosen another turkey.

Yeah he’s had such an unconvincing career thus far compared to the great orators that make up the Cabinet.

As I said, I doubt he’ll work miracles but he’ll get closer than the other options. Your colours are nailed firmly to the spivs currently doing so well and there’s literally nothing could change that and you have this weird delusion over the importance of your individual vote so it’s a moot point with you.

 

[ELLERS]

Yeah he’s had such an unconvincing career thus far compared to the great orators that make up the Cabinet.

As I said, I doubt he’ll work miracles but he’ll get closer than the other options. Your colours are nailed firmly to the spivs currently doing so well and there’s literally nothing could change that and you have this weird delusion over the importance of your individual vote so it’s a moot point with you.

question Watford: did Starmer call for a 2nd referendum or did he accept the result and wanted to fulfill the voter's wishes?

 

[Willhoops]

Yeah he’s had such an unconvincing career thus far compared to the great orators that make up the Cabinet.

As I said, I doubt he’ll work miracles but he’ll get closer than the other options. Your colours are nailed firmly to the spivs currently doing so well and there’s literally nothing could change that and you have this weird delusion over the importance of your individual vote so it’s a moot point with you.

Can anybody actually say with a straight face that Boris makes a better PM than Starmer would? One comes across as an articulate, statesman like, well informed and respectable figure whilst Boris looks like he needs help getting dressed in the morning

 

[Willhoops]

question Watford: did Starmer call for a 2nd referendum or did he accept the result and wanted to fulfill the voter's wishes?

Cult of Brexit, not that Boris only changed his stance when he saw it as an opportunity to further his career, from what he's said he doesn't actually believe in it, just that he would do anything for power

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

question Watford: did Starmer call for a 2nd referendum or did he accept the result and wanted to fulfill the voter's wishes?

Bit of a loaded question especially when the voters’ wishes can only be determined so much by an exceptionally vague question that a plurality voted for.

You’re arguing that more democracy with more information is undemocratic. Well done.

 

[ELLERS]

Bit of a loaded question especially when the voters’ wishes can only be determined so much by an exceptionally vague question that a plurality voted for.

You’re arguing that more democracy with more information is undemocratic. Well done.

you didn't answer a simple question Watford. it was quite simple. Was he not shadow Brexit secretary?
Like always you willing to knock people thinking you are some higher being but not willing to answer the questions.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

you didn't answer a simple question Watford. it was quite simple. Was he not shadow Brexit secretary?
Like always you willing to knock people thinking you are some higher being but not willing to answer the questions.

Yeah he was Shadow Brexit Secretary. It was a sensible policy that a load of terrified cultists didn’t like. It was silly and naive of him to not be as realistic about the limitations of the electorate as the Tories expertly have been, to their credit. Principle maybe, lack of experience perhaps or a compromise within the Party.

The utter hypocrisy of your last sentence is staggering.

 

[Staines R's]

Yeah he was Shadow Brexit Secretary. It was a sensible policy that a load of terrified cultists didn’t like. It was silly and naive of him to not be as realistic about the limitations of the electorate as the Tories expertly have been, to their credit. Principle maybe, lack of experience perhaps or a compromise within the Party.

The utter hypocrisy of your last sentence is staggering.

Your last sentence sums up our closet racist rather well I feel.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Your last sentence sums up our closet racist rather well I feel.

I think that’s unfair. Ellers is many things on these threads but I wouldn’t say he’s a racist.

 

[ELLERS]

Yeah he was Shadow Brexit Secretary. It was a sensible policy that a load of terrified cultists didn’t like. It was silly and naive of him to not be as realistic about the limitations of the electorate as the Tories expertly have been, to their credit. Principle maybe, lack of experience perhaps or a compromise within the Party.

The utter hypocrisy of your last sentence is staggering.

Actually he was the biggest voice in the party for a second referendum... funny that? Now it's all change to try and win some seats. I am glad he sticks by his principles?

 

[ELLERS]

I think that’s unfair. Ellers is many things on these threads but I wouldn’t say he’s a racist.

Oh cr2p are the attention seekers out? Mate I can't read their boring rubbish thank god.
Anyway continue with our debate as I am interested in your comments on Starmer.