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You're not getting it, are you?
I was trying to make the point that anyone criticising the government is accused of political point-scoring - predominately by Tory supporters.
I kind of wish I hadn't bothered.
They’ll take full advantage of the absolutely ****ed economy to throw us further into the abyss without it being possible to determine how much is directly due to it. If there was any justification for subjecting people to unnecessary economic decline before there can’t be when we’re set for double-digit GDP decline anyway. I’m actually embarrassed for you trying to dress it up as any sort of opportunity.
Others will argue that the time is right to leave for a better economic outcome. There isn't really any point in us going around in circles because it's done now and they believe they will get it right.
Who are these others? There’s no rational economic argument for it at all and even less so on the back of the current situation.
Watford just type in Brexit and read some of the articles... and not the ones from the SNP.
The EU is in crisis. Personally I think they won't survive this as they are incapable of controlling any of the countries. Add to that we are leaving and they will be broke... I wouldn't want to be in it.
Go back and read some of my predictions earlier in this thread where I said its days were numbered and any problems would see a collapse... although I wasn't talking Coronavirus.
The Tory government have handled this whole situation extremely badly and that corrupt contracts given out to Tory donors have meant that people have died and will continue to do so, that is just one example and they don't appear to be being held accountable is extremely worrying. I do think a few, sadly not all of the Tory's on here are able to see to a certain degree the faults and mistakes, however if anyone tells you to not criticise them you should politely tell them to **** right off, suppression of criticism for the Government is the definition of totalitarianism and without the government being held to account, corruption such as the Dyson contract is very likely to continue.
If Labour, not that they would
, had acted in the same way I and I believe the rest of us crazed lefties would be ****ing fuming and feel cheated that the people we had voted for would be failing us so badly. Granted this was always going to be a **** show no matter who was in charge but the corruption and incompetence shown by Boris and his merry band of ****tards has been unbelievable.
I definitely don't want the government to fail nor gain any joy from the Tory's mind boggling incompetence as this is meaning people are suffering and dying unnecessarily.
I do see @Stroller's frustration with people's attitudes, and yes that's happened on here too, dismissive, deflective and condescending behaviour that goes unchecked.
If Labour, not that they would
, had acted in the same way I and I believe the rest of us crazed lefties would be ****ing fuming and feel cheated that the people we had voted for would be failing us so badly. Granted this was always going to be a **** show no matter who was in charge but the corruption and incompetence shown by Boris and his merry band of ****tards has been unbelievable.I definitely don't want the government to fail nor gain any joy from the Tory's mind boggling incompetence as this is meaning people are suffering and dying unnecessarily.
I do see @Stroller's frustration with people's attitudes, and yes that's happened on here too, dismissive, deflective and condescending behaviour that goes unchecked.
Also just to confirm I would have extended a year but that isn't going to happen especially with the SNP wanting a Second referendum
It's like Deja vu.
Oh and yeah I agree with this, the Torys aren’t held account for flat out lying and misleading the public. I remember the Facebook campaign Labour adverts 0% of articles were found to be misleading or untruthful where as the Torys were 88%... pretty much nine out of ten things they were putting out there was a load of bollocks... their supporters didn’t care and it doesn’t appear anything has changed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1587384129
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1587384129
It’s become sport, unfortunately. Worse than sport if anything as we could mostly agree QPR were **** even if we sneaked a 1-0 win. Now we are 7-1 down and being told to wait until the Sunday paper reports to decide if we played well or not.
The Tory government have handled this whole situation extremely badly and that corrupt contracts given out to Tory donors have meant that people have died and will continue to do so, that is just one example and they don't appear to be being held accountable is extremely worrying. I do think a few, sadly not all of the Tory's on here are able to see to a certain degree the faults and mistakes, however if anyone tells you to not criticise them you should politely tell them to **** right off, suppression of criticism for the Government is the definition of totalitarianism and without the government being held to account, corruption such as the Dyson contract is very likely to continue.
If Labour, not that they would
I definitely don't want the government to fail nor gain any joy from the Tory's mind boggling incompetence as this is meaning people are suffering and dying unnecessarily.
I do see @Stroller's frustration with people's attitudes, and yes that's happened on here too, dismissive, deflective and condescending behaviour that goes unchecked.
So, it's just Tory politicians that have made all the mistakes and no one else?
Did I say that? They are the ones making calling the shots in the UK right now though, Diane Abbott can't be blamed for Boris missing Cobra meetings, Starmer didn't make the Tory's ignore EU health equipment scheme offers whilst offering a contract to Tory donors Dyson who have never made them and can't produce the numbers, Corbyn didn't hold Boris at gun point whist he went in a hospital shook everyones hands and said openly he would continue to do so sending out a very clear message to people.
I’m trying to work out which other party has been negligent. The Green Party maybe.
Pretty much.
It's the scientists that have been calling most of the shots.
Anyway, crack on with your predictable bias.
yeah but you know you always sit next to someone at QPR that moans even when things are good. You also know you get people at QPR who know 2222 all about the game but think they are pep Guardiola?
Oh ffs, yeah by posting an article quoting the lancet .... yeah not the Torys fault at all the scientists made them hand out contracts to Tory donors and ignore offers of medical equipment schemes from the EU