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They're obviously pushing us toward being so totally pissed off we all just give up. None of the scenarios being highlighted at present are satisfactory in any way, we'd be better off staying in than be captive without a say...
Sorry Sb, dont have time to write it all down right now, will try later
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He shoots, he scores! The Government win. Bloody Remainer leftie Bercow!
May has already said the she will hold indicative votes if she and Corbyn can't agree on anything, so it doesn't make that much difference anyway.
The waves swing too and fro with whatever is on the news .... I have it on a separate screen and today we have a surge of people trying to message no deal. Hope I am not scaremongering
Last work I have done recentty is for RSA who are opening new offices in Luxembourg
Heard today that no businesses have left London yet from a MP I spat out me coffee
Let’s start with the big ones Barclays they are off to Dublin
I honestly can say that I have no clue when anymore will slip away but I can honestly that my company has made thousands of updates to stored stationary stock ( head office changes)
I have no idea re employment figures
I think we will both have daily stories where the tone will switch each day
I did get a email from Lee Hoos today on other news
Again my Blue Sheep references is my take on how the Conservative party and its follows act
Have I been wrong on that ?
French news channels just cannot believe how we are acting ... laughing stock I’m afraid at the moment so when anyone claims that we have this promising future it’s very hard to believe it
Europe’s problems of course are bad but we how seek to try to compare these to ours achieves what? Is it the hope that is killing the Brexiteers no idea
What gives you the idea that the French news channels report the truth, are they showing all the protesters in Paris demanding FREXIT, are they showing all the riot control water cannon armoured vehicles sporting the EU flag and not the French one.
I believe the RSA move was already in the pipeline prior to Brexit, and in actual fact is only for their European insurance arm, not their HQ which will remain in the UK as was the Barclays one to Dublin, Barclays main offices and HQ will still be the city of London all they have done is move ownership of their European bank branches to Dublin in a little 170 million pound sideline.(in effect nothing more than a legitimate tax dodge)
These are easily obtainable facts googled them, so again just scaremongeringand blowing things up out of all proportion to make your case seem legitimate and true.
Yes I agree things will change from day to day but please feel free to enlighten us on how many companies and manufactures have moved to the U.K. because of Brexit do what I did and google it.
Glad you finally admit it because admitting you have a problem is the first step in overcoming it, start appreciating Brexit you’ll feel a whole lot better about yourself and you won’t have to believe all the remain lies anymore, thus enabling you to be a free thinking human and not a Euro sheeple
Well one of my largest clients are RSA so I hope a good insight there. The current strategy oc most of these type of companies is to establish a European bolt hole not just European business
Yes they could of run that before Brexit from London but that will change ... the point and strategies involved that is not on the news is the fact that they are primed to pull out of the U.K. as they see fit and if they see fit
Business opportunities are the only key factors here as most I deal with are revelling in the disruption... they will go where the money is best made ... before Brexit they were scrambling to be in the City at any cost now that trend has gone
20 Fenchurch St costs RSA millions at the moment ... Horsham Offices have just been sold and staff reduced by 70% I am often at both places and have to say acceleration of change is remarkable. I can state that in this case preparation to move is at an advanced stage
Barclays who I also work for at times similar story and colleagues claim £70 billion of assets being assessed currently... firm belief that new hQ will be based in Dublin
Now we should agree there has been activities since the Brexit vote and I agree new business will come to the UK but I believe still it will be a weakened U.K. afterwards regardless of deal or no deal
I can only comment on gear I know about
Working in advertising and marketing I have noticed one thing ... no new U.K. campaigns for q3/4 which is bizarre for my industry ... example new financial products for punters from any of our clients. In terms of accounts the firm I work for which an American agency have moved 23 in house accounts to European HQs example Heineken back to Amsterdam from London
It would make no difference to our opinions I am sure but daily change is happening
Glad you finally admit it because admitting you have a problem is the first step in overcoming it, start appreciating Brexit you’ll feel a whole lot better about yourself and you won’t have to believe all the remain lies anymore, thus enabling you to be a free thinking human and not a Euro sheeple
Well I live in France so abide with French rules
My remain concerns will always be for the future generations of my home country. Today of course I would take governance by the EU over our lot anyday ... yes it massive and maybe Big brother but things get delivered on time every time in my experience... I find the simple things hard to accept when I am in the U.K. simple things just like travelling add to that bloody blind brexiteers ruining the country I think I have made the right choice
Project Fear I agree is madness and just a spin
After Brexit I am sure most of us will turn off the news and allow the bastards on both sides U.K. and the EU get on and corrupt us all
Wales Minister and Government Whip Nigel Adams has resigned from the Government this morning over The Prime Minister’s new approach giving unprecedented power to shape Brexit to a man she has repeatedly told the nation is “a threat to national security”. Hardly surprising…
“I believe we have two great challenges. We must deliver the Brexit the people voted for. And we must prevent the calamity of a Corbyn government.
Sadly. I fear that we are now at risk of simultaneously failing in both.”
Read the full resignation letter here:
It has been an honour to serve in your Government as a Minister since 2017 and I remain a firm admirer of your courage and stoicism during one of the most difficult crises this country has faced for a generation.
I believe we have two great challenges. We must deliver the Brexit the people voted for. And we must prevent the calamity of a Corbyn government.
Sadly. I fear that we are now at risk of simultaneously failing in both.
I have been loyally supportive of your negotiated deal with the EU at every stage as I believe an orderly exit is preferable to leaving without a deal. However, I believe the UK would have coped with leaving with a managed no deal.
At cabinet yesterday, there was an opportunity to get onto the front foot for once. However, by legitimising and turning to Jeremy Corbyn to assist you at this crucial stage, rather than being bold, is a grave error. It is clear that we will now end up in the customs union. That is not the Brexit my constituents were promised. and it is contrary to the pledge we made in our manifesto.
It makes no sense to leave the EU and to have a situation where our trade policy and much of our law is made in Brussels – with no say for the UK.
I and many others agreed with your previous position that no deal is better than a bad deal.
It now seems that you and your cabinet have decided that a deal – cooked up with a Marxist who has never once in his political life, put British interests first – is better than no deal.
I profoundly disagree with this approach and I have therefore decided that I must reluctantly tender my resignation.
It has been a privilege to serve as a Minister in the Government Whips Office, at the Ministry for Housing, Communities and Local Government and latterly at the Wales Office and I will always be grateful to you for giving me the opportunity to serve the people of the UK in your Government.
I am passionate about my constituency and have always strived to do my best for the people of Selby and Ainsty since 2010. I will continue to serve them diligently from the back benches.
Yours sincerely,
Nigel Adams
“I believe we have two great challenges. We must deliver the Brexit the people voted for. And we must prevent the calamity of a Corbyn government.
Sadly. I fear that we are now at risk of simultaneously failing in both.”
Read the full resignation letter here:
It has been an honour to serve in your Government as a Minister since 2017 and I remain a firm admirer of your courage and stoicism during one of the most difficult crises this country has faced for a generation.
I believe we have two great challenges. We must deliver the Brexit the people voted for. And we must prevent the calamity of a Corbyn government.
Sadly. I fear that we are now at risk of simultaneously failing in both.
I have been loyally supportive of your negotiated deal with the EU at every stage as I believe an orderly exit is preferable to leaving without a deal. However, I believe the UK would have coped with leaving with a managed no deal.
At cabinet yesterday, there was an opportunity to get onto the front foot for once. However, by legitimising and turning to Jeremy Corbyn to assist you at this crucial stage, rather than being bold, is a grave error. It is clear that we will now end up in the customs union. That is not the Brexit my constituents were promised. and it is contrary to the pledge we made in our manifesto.
It makes no sense to leave the EU and to have a situation where our trade policy and much of our law is made in Brussels – with no say for the UK.
I and many others agreed with your previous position that no deal is better than a bad deal.
It now seems that you and your cabinet have decided that a deal – cooked up with a Marxist who has never once in his political life, put British interests first – is better than no deal.
I profoundly disagree with this approach and I have therefore decided that I must reluctantly tender my resignation.
It has been a privilege to serve as a Minister in the Government Whips Office, at the Ministry for Housing, Communities and Local Government and latterly at the Wales Office and I will always be grateful to you for giving me the opportunity to serve the people of the UK in your Government.
I am passionate about my constituency and have always strived to do my best for the people of Selby and Ainsty since 2010. I will continue to serve them diligently from the back benches.
Yours sincerely,
Nigel Adams
BBC want it known they are not pro Remain. But as usual, 4 out of 5 speakers are Remain in QT tomorrow, including Idi Amin Lammy, a female Marxist journalist of Indian heritage, and Mairead McGuinness who is Irish and vice president of the EU Parliament
So nicely balanced once again, BBC
So nicely balanced once again, BBC
It happens all the time. Remainers out number leavers virtually every week and Bruce is just as bad as her predecessor Dimbleby for giving left leaning panelists more time to speak.
Can't stand that Irish woman. Last time she was on she just sat there lecturing us all on why we shouldn't have voted leave and Dimbleby just let her drone on and on and on.