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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
It seems the remain establishment are worried as now they are on a witch hunt for people promoting 'no deal' on Facebook. They just want some excuse to say it's illegal even though it isn't as there is no campaign going.
maybe they should investigate the constant remain and anti Brexit memes and adds that have flooded Facebook in the last 2 years?
 
ELLERS said:
It seems the remain establishment are worried as now they are on a witch hunt for people promoting 'no deal' on Facebook. They just want some excuse to say it's illegal even though it isn't as there is no campaign going.
maybe they should investigate the constant remain and anti Brexit memes and adds that have flooded Facebook in the last 2 years?
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Or maybe the 40 years of anti-EU propaganda in the right-wing media.
 
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i reckon i would take my chances in london

Knife crime
Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime
North London community believes police cannot protect teenagers against county lines gangs
Mark Townsend Home affairs editor
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Sat 9 Mar 2019 22.59 GMT Last modified on Sat 9 Mar 2019 23.10 GMT
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    A boy walks past the site of a recent car bomb in Mogadishu, Somalia. Despite such terrorist attacks, British teenagers are being sent to the country by their parents. Photograph: Mohamed Abdiwahab/Getty
    British teenagers are being sent by their parents to Somalia, itself recovering from a series of terror attacks, because of concern that the police cannot protect them from knife crime.
    Representatives from north London’s Somali community say hundreds of children have been flown to Somalia, Somaliland and Kenya because of rising concerns over drug gangs and county lines, the criminal networks that use children to transport drugs from cities to the provinces.
    In a series of interviews, Somali mothers who arrived in London after fleeing their country during its 1990s civil war told the Observer that many of their sons had asked to leave the UK because of drug gangs and the threat of violence.
    Rakhia Ismail, Islington deputy mayor, said: “Sending them away has become the only way they can be safer. This issue of safety has been repeatedly raised by the community but nobody has listened. So many children have gone abroad. Two weeks ago, there was a stabbing and a child was taken back home two days later.”
    The revelations follow a week of heated debate over the causes of and potential solutions to Britain’s knife crime epidemic. Seventeen people have died after attacks in London alone since the start of 2019. On Saturday, there were reports that three people were in hospital after an attack at a nightclub in Birmingham, a city reeling from three knife fatalities within days last month. And a 15-year-old boy was charged with murder after the stabbing of 17-year-old Ayub Hassan, in west London, on Thursday afternoon.
    The supermarket Asda made a surprise intervention on Saturday into the issue, announcing that it will stop selling single kitchen knives.
    Minority Matters, said: “Hundreds of youngsters have been taken to Somalia, Somaliland and Kenya, some taken all the way to the rural areas. Parents feel they have no choice if they want their son to be safe.”
    Ali, a mother of seven, sent her 15-year-old son to Somalia to protect him from gangs and said many of her friends now have children on two continents. Another 15-year-old son was recently sent to Somalia after his friend was stabbed to death in Islington and he was told “you next”.
    Recently, Somalia has suffered a number of terror attacks. A car bomb in the capital, Mogadishu, killed seven people and wounded several others on Thursday, following. It followed another the week before which killed 29 people.
    On Friday, a north London Somali mother flew to Mombasa, Kenya, to dissuade her 19-year-old son from returning to the UK after gangs asked him to return: “I am very scared what the gangs will do if he comes home.”
    •A man appeared in court on Saturday charged with the murder of Jodie Chesney, 17, who was knifed in the back near a children’s playground in Harold Hill, Romford, east London, on 1 March. Manuel Petrovic, 20, was remanded in custody after appearing at Barkingside magistrates court.
 
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Or maybe the 40 years of anti-EU propaganda in the right-wing media.
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I don't recall 40 years of EU propaganda?
What you should be concentrating on is the despicable way your beloved EU has treated this country in these negotiations. Even the neutrals are saying how bad the EU is acting. They are acting like muppets and treating our leader and officials with contempt. Even their latest cheek is to charge us £1b per month for an extension. It's all about money with them.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...multi-billion-pound-increase-divorce-payment/

However, the good news is that more and more people are getting p'd with them and are changing their minds. You push us too much we will hit back.
Let me do the negotiations as I would tell them to **** off
 
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Dog owners hound Theresa May in call for Brexit referendum

The prime minister is "in the dog house", organisers say, with just 18 days to go until the UK is due to leave the EU.

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Theresa May has been accused of making a "dog's dinner" of Brexit by second referendum campaigners and their pooches.

The prime minister was hounded by pup-owners who gathered in Westminster to condemn the "diabolical" situation just 19 days from Brexit.


She will put her EU divorce deal back to parliament for a second time on Tuesday, after Tory Brexiteers torpedoed it in January in the biggest ever defeat on a vote in the House of Commons.

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@kiwiqpr the Barnsley forum whippet has got into politics<ok><laugh>

https://news.sky.com/story/dog-owners-hound-theresa-may-in-call-for-brexit-referendum-11661306
 
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I read a similar story and it is shocking how these muppets are trying to stop a democratic vote for their own benefits. They will also try and take the power away from May. If they derail Brexit there will be a cull of MP's at the next election and a few of these muppets losing their jobs.
 
A no-deal Brexit survival guide: what food to stockpile
With news that the government is planning to stock up on processed foods in case we crash out, what should ordinary shoppers be looking to bulk buy?
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Thu 12 Jul 2018 09.00 BST Last modified on Wed 10 Oct 2018 12.47 BST
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    No-deal meal deal. Photograph: Alamy Stock Photo
    The story broke on Tuesday that the government, in anticipation of a no-deal Brexit, has been drawing up plans to stockpile processed foods, in the event that, by 29 March next year, they have still not worked out a way to maintain the free flow of goods – which includes food and medical supplies – between EU producers and UK consumers. Because the UK, as has been repeatedly pointed out since the 2016 referendum, produces only half of what it eats. And, when it comes to fruit and vegetables, 40% of fresh produce comes from the EU.
    A free flow of goods means minimal delays in transit, which is crucial for anything fresh. As the head of the British Retail Consortium warned Theresa May and Michel Barnier last week, a no-deal Brexit could mean “food rotting at ports”.
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    Of course, if the flipside of a no-deal Brexit is a UK-US trade deal like Nafta, things aren’t looking any cheerier. As Julian Baggini highlighted in June, an influx of cheaper, ultra-processed, high-sugar American foods will no doubt come with higher obesity rates. So, stockpiling – despite its slightly hysterical, end-of-the-world connotations – might be a sensible thing to do. It’s also what every reasonable What to Eat As a Student guide always starts with.
    While you can, for example, source British-produced flour, oats, sugar (from beets), salt (by Maldon, for example), vinegar (apple cider, say, as opposed to balsamic), mustard (although the Colman’s factory in Norwich is closing next year), Marmite (the Burton upon Trent factory isn’t going anywhere but, frankly, who can risk a run on their supplies?), lentils and more, you’ll want a stash of your high-quality EU goods, too. Start with olive oil, pepper, pasta and rice. For flavour, you’ll want spices, chilli and herbs, anchovies and tomato (paste, tinned and passata).
    Then you need bulk and protein: canned and dried pulses (kidney beans, butter beans, black beans, chickpeas) and tinned fish (sardines and tuna). Add to that tinned olives, pickled capers and jarred peppers, and you’ve basically got a cheat’s Ottolenghi.
    The good news is that, while Britain doesn’t produce enough of the fresh produce it needs, it certainly can. As farmers Jane Scotter and Guy Watson pointed out the last time there was a scare, this country grows wonderful stuff – and you don’t need a field to start. So, while you’re stockpiling canned goods, buy a stash of seed packets, too.
 
Stroller said:
I don't think Kiwi is a real person. He's a Bot installed by Putin and Aaron Banks.
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they are onto us

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destroy all the zx81s before they find the hide out
 
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kiwiqpr said:
who buys british wine
i thought it was pretty much undrinkable
or has global warming helped with the grapes
or is it really vinegar exports

We export loads of food and drink:

Whisky £895m
Salmon £186m
Chocolate £155m
Cheese £145m
Beer £139m
Wine £133m
Pork £109m
Gin £108m
Beef £106m
Vegetables £97m

Source H&M Customs and Excise
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I've celebrated some new years in Oslo with some English champagne a friend uses a lot of well earned on. He swears its better than anthing French or anywhere else come to that. Excellent stuff whatever, grown in Dorset, it's won International awards and French experts think it is their very own Champagne, when asked to guess where its from.
 
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QPR Oslo said:
I've celebrated some new years in Oslo with some English champagne a friend uses a lot of well earned on. He swears its better than anthing French or anywhere else come to that. Excellent stuff whatever, grown in Dorset, it's won International awards and French experts think it is their very own Champagne, when asked to guess where its from.
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The number for wine exports is not for English produce - it is in fact mostly for companies such as Bibendum/Majestic Wines that act as a consolidated supplier to to many overseas establishments, typically supermarket and hotel chains.
It has virtually nothing to do with British wines, which is for the money, absolutely crap.
 
Breaking: Sun are saying that TM will not hold the meaninful vote as it is... she will hold a mock vote.. this means the other votes can't happen.
So May has been clever to kick the can down the street again.
 
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