Basically May's position will be untenable if she loses the vote and the following vote removing 'No Deal'...
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Basically May's position will be untenable if she loses the vote and the following vote removing 'No Deal'...
It seems this is a major push by the Brexiteers today. Just had David Davis on Marr show who basically said if we betray Brexit 'the voters would never forgive us'. he was talking both Labour and Tory voters.
I see where they are going with this... about time the spoke up because at the end of the day we voted to leave and the need to respect it. Hopefully May will resign after this vote and we get a proper Brexiteers MP in to tell the EU to **** off. At the end of the day I still think we will leave as when the chips are down MP's wouldn't dare betray the people.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the no deal vote pulled - especially as they've now laid legislation which could only ever be used in a no deal scenario before both Houses...
You may be right. Personally, I don't see how Parliament can rule out a no-deal when they can't agree anything else. It's like jumping in the air and ruling out landing on the ground again.
The best way to get the EU back to the table and get a deal, it to head for a no deal. The EU bureaucrats are frightened of this, and Brussels would be castigated by its own members if it allowed it to happened and the predicted 100,000 jobs were lost in Germany etc
I'm hoping all the MP's voting for no no-deal are virtue signallers who don't want to take responsibility any rough edges to WTO. Someone needs to grasp this nettle - WTO is the only way to go, and if we head for that, I'll bet strongly that the EU will come back to the table with a better offer on the backstop
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...2?shareToken=1b56eff4f070b29ff99649d85c450140
Enjoy, and take the on line test!
Enjoy, and take the on line test!
The thing that I think many don't fully understand is that the default position is in law. The only way to stop it is extend or the PM to change things. This no deal vote (if it happens) does not trump the law or the PM. If MP's tried to take control they would have major major problems on their hands.
Personally, I am beginning to think that May will lose the vote and when it comes to the other votes MP's will bottle it. Rumours going around are that many Labour MP's in Leave constituancies won't risk the backlash. I think 'No deal' has moved up the ladder again.
Can you imagine May losing the vote then betraying Brexit? What sort of legacy would that be.. 'The woman who killed the Tory party and not only betrayed her people but her country'. She won't go down that route.
In an ideal World, May will quit when her vote fails and a new leader will walk. It's the only way now.
Look at the options.
Leave no deal...fulfil's vote outcome. May cause problems but democracy is respected.
May's deal...keeps us tied to the EU and is worse than being in.
Second vote... leave would win by bigger majority. But what's the point when we still have same MP's in place? Kills democracy
Norway or some other CU/SM thing... Not what people voted for. Keeps us tied to EU, better to stay in. Kills democracy.
Extension... Excuse for another vote. Nothing will change. Kills democracy.
Scrape Brexit... Kills democracy
Best thing to do now is just walk.
What a stupid arrogant remainer quiz by the Times. All it is trying to say that if you don't score a high enough mark you are a leaver.
How about putting in a question if 52% of voters voted to leaver and 48% voted remain... who is the winner? Or is it undemocratic to not respect a result Yes or No. Arrogant muppets.
Not really, its just a shame that a once great paper like The Times needs to lower itself to this? No wonder the amount of readers it had has dropped.
Sadly it's the same old arrogant argument that if you voted Brexit you are some how thick. Keep knocking the people and their resolve will only get stronger. Personally I would rather be thick but believe in democracy.
Yes I gathered that Goldie. I looked at the first question and realised their motive. I confused why sb needed to post it... actually I'm not? what is he trying to prove or say, that he knows how many green mushrooms grow in some forest? I would rather know why MP's are trying to overturn our democratic vote?
The Sunday Times backed Leave in the referendum. The Times was pro Remain. This was a Sunday Times story.
I was trying to wind you and other up Ellers, as I would have thought was obvious. And the responses haven’t disappointed.
Agree... I guess we have been so indoctrinated by the remain media that these terms like 'Cliff edge', 'catastrophic' and 'no deal' sometimes get used.
The only game played in town has been British incompetence since day one imo. The EU have been united imo you need to look from both sides
How anyone can defend the governance of Brexit by the U.K. is beyond me
From the outside looking into the U.K. it has been a shambles so I for one on here aren’t going to allow bleating about what should of happened without reply ... where does that get anyone
19 days away and still no forward thinking plans or certainty for anyone especially business
Disgraceful misguided loyalty shown by some on here. Time to wake up imo
Without dramatic change things will continue as they were. There is a time to be proud to be British but it’s not now imo
I suspect what it proves is that Remainers have cornered the academic market. Most academics I have come across are Remain. They may not be able to tie up their own shoe laces or be commercial or businesslike in any street wise sense, but they can translate Homer's Iliad.